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		By: Keith Parry		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-party-7-rabble-rousers-and-censorship/#comment-425</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Parry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rebuilding a nationalist party in swansea is a bit of a task. Seeing the imbeciles led by the man in a white coat in power in the city at the moment it is a task that could be done by a few determined people. I used to live in Swansea sopme years ago, it is sad to see a great city in the hands of these sorry people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebuilding a nationalist party in swansea is a bit of a task. Seeing the imbeciles led by the man in a white coat in power in the city at the moment it is a task that could be done by a few determined people. I used to live in Swansea sopme years ago, it is sad to see a great city in the hands of these sorry people.</p>
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		By: Stirling Doss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stirling Doss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I should have said &#039;destruction&#039; - but I was flustered by all this right-wing propaganda.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have said &#8216;destruction&#8217; &#8211; but I was flustered by all this right-wing propaganda&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Stirling Doss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stirling Doss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There never was democracy in Swansea; power was always in the hands of a few backscratcher families.  There never was a free press in Wales; the last investigative reporter was Giraldus Cambrensis.  And Marx Bach was right - capitalism does indeed contain the seeds of its own instruction; we are seeing this all around us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There never was democracy in Swansea; power was always in the hands of a few backscratcher families.  There never was a free press in Wales; the last investigative reporter was Giraldus Cambrensis.  And Marx Bach was right &#8211; capitalism does indeed contain the seeds of its own instruction; we are seeing this all around us.</p>
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		By: leigh richards		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leigh richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hmmm....perhaps one reason why this letter has not been published jac is because it smacks of the kind of ugly &#039;red baiting&#039; language that would be more at home on the letters page of the daily mail, alongside those of fulminating ex colonels from tunbridge wells telling us that &#039;enoch powell was right&#039; and calling for trade unionists and the like to be jailed...or worse....... 

there are range of groups and individuals across wales who are opposed to the savage benefit cuts being imposed on people in wales by the british government at westminister.....ranging from churches and community groups to members of trade unions and political parties in wales.........and it was these such people who took part in a lobby of local councillors in swansea on april 11th.....with those attending the lobby quite reasonably urging councillors to support pleas not to evict local people from council properties if they fall into difficulties as a result of british government measures like the &#039;bedroom tax&#039;.....im pleased to read the councillor concerned has conerns about the impact of these cuts on people...and hope that he and all his colleagues on swansea council will heed the calls of those who lobbied swansea council on april 11th....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230;.perhaps one reason why this letter has not been published jac is because it smacks of the kind of ugly &#8216;red baiting&#8217; language that would be more at home on the letters page of the daily mail, alongside those of fulminating ex colonels from tunbridge wells telling us that &#8216;enoch powell was right&#8217; and calling for trade unionists and the like to be jailed&#8230;or worse&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>there are range of groups and individuals across wales who are opposed to the savage benefit cuts being imposed on people in wales by the british government at westminister&#8230;..ranging from churches and community groups to members of trade unions and political parties in wales&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and it was these such people who took part in a lobby of local councillors in swansea on april 11th&#8230;..with those attending the lobby quite reasonably urging councillors to support pleas not to evict local people from council properties if they fall into difficulties as a result of british government measures like the &#8216;bedroom tax&#8217;&#8230;..im pleased to read the councillor concerned has conerns about the impact of these cuts on people&#8230;and hope that he and all his colleagues on swansea council will heed the calls of those who lobbied swansea council on april 11th&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 23:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;&#039;m not suggesting that Labour is today a socialist party, but what I am alluding to is a perception worthy of study. Namely, that those on the political fringes have no alternative but to support parties they detest but which they nevertheless perceive as being closest to their beliefs and the only hope for seeing their ideas or policies implemented.

In the case of the hard left, that party remains Labour. In my case, elections roll around and I say to myself, &#039;Those weak-willed, socialist wankers in Plaid Cymru . . . for whom I have no alternative but to vote&#039;. The difference being that the hard left and Labour will be seen together in public, whereas I would rather detach my testicles with a blunt and rusty hacksaw than be seen in public with Plaid Cymru.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8221;m not suggesting that Labour is today a socialist party, but what I am alluding to is a perception worthy of study. Namely, that those on the political fringes have no alternative but to support parties they detest but which they nevertheless perceive as being closest to their beliefs and the only hope for seeing their ideas or policies implemented.</p>
<p>In the case of the hard left, that party remains Labour. In my case, elections roll around and I say to myself, &#8216;Those weak-willed, socialist wankers in Plaid Cymru . . . for whom I have no alternative but to vote&#8217;. The difference being that the hard left and Labour will be seen together in public, whereas I would rather detach my testicles with a blunt and rusty hacksaw than be seen in public with Plaid Cymru.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 23:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-party-7-rabble-rousers-and-censorship/#comment-416&quot;&gt;Shambo&lt;/a&gt;.

You are forgiven, my son.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-party-7-rabble-rousers-and-censorship/#comment-416">Shambo</a>.</p>
<p>You are forgiven, my son.</p>
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		By: arthur		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arthur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 23:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The idea that the Labour Party is in any way left-wing let alone Marxist is a Telegraph reader&#039;s wet dream. Unfortunately it is not based in any reality. The only Marxist grouplets in Swansea are the ineffectual SWP and SP, whose hatred for the Labour Party is only exceeded by that towards each other. The rest of your piece is spot on!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that the Labour Party is in any way left-wing let alone Marxist is a Telegraph reader&#8217;s wet dream. Unfortunately it is not based in any reality. The only Marxist grouplets in Swansea are the ineffectual SWP and SP, whose hatred for the Labour Party is only exceeded by that towards each other. The rest of your piece is spot on!</p>
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		By: Shambo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shambo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-party-7-rabble-rousers-and-censorship/#comment-415&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh fine. Excuse me for being OTT on the subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-party-7-rabble-rousers-and-censorship/#comment-415">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>Oh fine. Excuse me for being OTT on the subject.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-party-7-rabble-rousers-and-censorship/#comment-413&quot;&gt;Shambo&lt;/a&gt;.

Shambo, you have a tendency to exaggerate. It was, allegedly, one councillor causing small explosions in a neighbourhood of Denbigh town. You make it sound like gangs of Lib Dem councillors roaming the county hurling bombs indiscriminately.

And let&#039;s not jump to conclusions, he&#039;s only just been charged. Though if it was him, causing explosions literally on his own doorstep, then going on TV to talk about it, and demand action, was very, very cheeky. And if nothing else, it might require answers from Gogplod. Answers to questions such as, &#039;What the fuck were &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; doing?&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-party-7-rabble-rousers-and-censorship/#comment-413">Shambo</a>.</p>
<p>Shambo, you have a tendency to exaggerate. It was, allegedly, one councillor causing small explosions in a neighbourhood of Denbigh town. You make it sound like gangs of Lib Dem councillors roaming the county hurling bombs indiscriminately.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not jump to conclusions, he&#8217;s only just been charged. Though if it was him, causing explosions literally on his own doorstep, then going on TV to talk about it, and demand action, was very, very cheeky. And if nothing else, it might require answers from Gogplod. Answers to questions such as, &#8216;What the fuck were <i><b>you</b></i> doing?&#8217;</p>
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		By: Shambo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shambo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So is Lib Dem councillors blowing up parts of Denbighshire is suddenly acceptable or just an inconvenient distraction from Labour bashing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is Lib Dem councillors blowing up parts of Denbighshire is suddenly acceptable or just an inconvenient distraction from Labour bashing?</p>
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