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		By: Preseli		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 07:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/senedd-elections-hard-left-to-win-by-stealth/#comment-40226&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

Brychan you are spot on with your analysis. 4 yrs ago i asked Adam, as new leader would he stop banging on about socialism as the word scares  the conservatively minded Welsh voter, and it would broaden PCs appeal to forget an obsolete ideology. Use communitarianism, selfsufficiency, sustainable economic growth, fair society but stop banging on  about colliers and 70s mantras.! Anyway he did not and look where they are today. 

I also drew his office&#039;s attention to  his laughable and terrible comms dept&#039;s work. Remember that ridiculous Mab Darogan video of him in a suit on the ramparts of Dynevor castle. As well as the dark green pamphlets featuring a wordy thesis that nobody will read , still being produced year after year at elections. They need to look at Reform UKs style of messaging, simple, clear, repetative, sparse but easily understood text . 

Plaid is lost ot has lost the plot]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/senedd-elections-hard-left-to-win-by-stealth/#comment-40226">Brychan</a>.</p>
<p>Brychan you are spot on with your analysis. 4 yrs ago i asked Adam, as new leader would he stop banging on about socialism as the word scares  the conservatively minded Welsh voter, and it would broaden PCs appeal to forget an obsolete ideology. Use communitarianism, selfsufficiency, sustainable economic growth, fair society but stop banging on  about colliers and 70s mantras.! Anyway he did not and look where they are today. </p>
<p>I also drew his office&#8217;s attention to  his laughable and terrible comms dept&#8217;s work. Remember that ridiculous Mab Darogan video of him in a suit on the ramparts of Dynevor castle. As well as the dark green pamphlets featuring a wordy thesis that nobody will read , still being produced year after year at elections. They need to look at Reform UKs style of messaging, simple, clear, repetative, sparse but easily understood text . </p>
<p>Plaid is lost ot has lost the plot</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2021 16:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this headline cropped up today in the Guardian ( on line, I wouldn&#039;t pay for that rag!) I just found it on Google news service.  

French soldiers accuse government of trying to ‘silence’ warnings of civil war 


The military, or at least a significant number of serving and ex officers had written to the current regime expressing concerns about instability, and true to form the government ignores it and accuses them of overstepping their mandate. 
Many of the usual suspects who are too feeble to confront the worst excesses of Islamification crop up in response to the open letter which   &quot;…. also accused anti-racism groups of creating “hatred between communities” and cautioned that “lax” government policies could spark chaos requiring military action to “protect our civilisational values”. 
Maybe someone on that side of the Channel will have the resolve to tackle immigration and subversive Islamification before it gets worse. French have had plenty of recent exposure to militant Islam in the sub Saharan zone and are probably mightily pissed off with the whole thing by now. In France, as here in the UK and even dear old Wales, so called socialists are far more concerned with not upsetting these cultures from the far flung than looking after the interests of natives. In France they have coined the term Islamo-gauchism to describe the perverted affection that lifestyle lefties have for militant Islamism.  Islamist extremists know these lefties as useful idiots !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this headline cropped up today in the Guardian ( on line, I wouldn&#8217;t pay for that rag!) I just found it on Google news service.  </p>
<p>French soldiers accuse government of trying to ‘silence’ warnings of civil war </p>
<p>The military, or at least a significant number of serving and ex officers had written to the current regime expressing concerns about instability, and true to form the government ignores it and accuses them of overstepping their mandate.<br />
Many of the usual suspects who are too feeble to confront the worst excesses of Islamification crop up in response to the open letter which   &#8220;…. also accused anti-racism groups of creating “hatred between communities” and cautioned that “lax” government policies could spark chaos requiring military action to “protect our civilisational values”.<br />
Maybe someone on that side of the Channel will have the resolve to tackle immigration and subversive Islamification before it gets worse. French have had plenty of recent exposure to militant Islam in the sub Saharan zone and are probably mightily pissed off with the whole thing by now. In France, as here in the UK and even dear old Wales, so called socialists are far more concerned with not upsetting these cultures from the far flung than looking after the interests of natives. In France they have coined the term Islamo-gauchism to describe the perverted affection that lifestyle lefties have for militant Islamism.  Islamist extremists know these lefties as useful idiots !</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2021 10:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now beginning to look like those saintly figures behind so much globalist and wokey activism are not so squeaky clean after all. It is now suggested that Mrs Gates started looking at ways of dumping shrinking violet Bill in 2019 after she discovered that Bill&#039;s circle of friends included one Jeffrey Epstein. Aw shucks, was Billy partial to a bit of juvenile crumpet too ? Did he see it as a way of getting into royalty circles ? One of the World&#039;s richest and still a social climber, how inadequate can one get !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now beginning to look like those saintly figures behind so much globalist and wokey activism are not so squeaky clean after all. It is now suggested that Mrs Gates started looking at ways of dumping shrinking violet Bill in 2019 after she discovered that Bill&#8217;s circle of friends included one Jeffrey Epstein. Aw shucks, was Billy partial to a bit of juvenile crumpet too ? Did he see it as a way of getting into royalty circles ? One of the World&#8217;s richest and still a social climber, how inadequate can one get !</p>
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		By: David Smith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 17:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/senedd-elections-hard-left-to-win-by-stealth/#comment-40229&quot;&gt;David Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s somewhat heartening to see that they didn&#039;t do very well at all, only comparably so (or at least, the same order of magnitude of vote numbers) to the other minor parties. BritNat vermin like that will always have bigger funding pools to draw upon I&#039;d imagine, from &#039;well wishers&#039; up east (read: planters and colonists who seethe at the chutzpah of assertion of a separate Welsh identity). A pox upon all their sporadically occupied houses!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/senedd-elections-hard-left-to-win-by-stealth/#comment-40229">David Smith</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s somewhat heartening to see that they didn&#8217;t do very well at all, only comparably so (or at least, the same order of magnitude of vote numbers) to the other minor parties. BritNat vermin like that will always have bigger funding pools to draw upon I&#8217;d imagine, from &#8216;well wishers&#8217; up east (read: planters and colonists who seethe at the chutzpah of assertion of a separate Welsh identity). A pox upon all their sporadically occupied houses!</p>
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		By: David Smith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 17:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read that Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party [sic] want to also abolish protections for the Welsh language. And these cunts have the temerity to use Y Ddraig Goch as part of their branding? What &#039;Welsh&#039; will be left at all if tossers like these have their way?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party [sic] want to also abolish protections for the Welsh language. And these cunts have the temerity to use Y Ddraig Goch as part of their branding? What &#8216;Welsh&#8217; will be left at all if tossers like these have their way?</p>
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		By: David Smith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 17:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/senedd-elections-hard-left-to-win-by-stealth/#comment-40190&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

What a charlatan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/senedd-elections-hard-left-to-win-by-stealth/#comment-40190">Brychan</a>.</p>
<p>What a charlatan.</p>
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		By: Red Flag		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 12:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/senedd-elections-hard-left-to-win-by-stealth/#comment-40226&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

Good summary]]></description>
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<p>Good summary</p>
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		By: Brychan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brychan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 07:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/senedd-elections-hard-left-to-win-by-stealth/#comment-40225&quot;&gt;Red Flag&lt;/a&gt;.

If you approach the Senedd election with the objective of winning national independence then we must accept that the key is to win the valleys and coastal cities which has well over half of the population of our country. Not only that, as the Senedd is constituted 40 seats constituency and 20 seats regional, the key is also constituency wins. Plaid Cymru is the only party to seriously make this challenge, but it has failed. Not for want of the voters, but by organisational failure.

In the lead up to these elections we see they committed three acts of self-harm. They starved Rhondda , slit their throat in Cardiff West and set themselves on fire in Llanelli. 

It is a repeat of what happened after 1999, where they held Rhondda, Llanelli and Islwyn. Curry plots, internal manoeuvres against elected members and also diverting resources. It was a retreat to Fro Gymraeg then, and a retreat to Fro Gymraeg now. Plaid Cymru might well find solace, as before, in some regional members being elected, but that is dint of the electoral system rather than community based support.  

So lets look at the constituencies.

Rhondda.
Leanne Wood was right when she said, at the time, that Geraint Davies lost Rhondda because he became bogged down in constituent matters. That’s a job to delegate to staff and other cadres to develop as community campaigns. Yet, this is exactly what she did when she became constituency MS. More often found packing tins of beans at the food bank than leading campaigns, which Buffy did. Had Leanne done so, she’d still be MS.

Cardiff West.
Saying the wrong thing can be laughed off, doing the right thing has to be cherished. McEvoy never was the best cup of tea in the conference room, but as a community champion he’s gold dust. Ostracising him was an act of self harm. Had he been tolerated rather than witch-hunted, he’d mow be a Plaid Cymru MS.

Llanelli.
You cannot impose candidates onto a constituency and attack it’s volunteers calling them deadwood, and then impose a candidate, firstly from outside for Westminster, and then someone who is in fact a rotting trunk to stand for Senedd. Had Sean Rees stood for Westminster, he would have grown the vote but lost, and had he then stood for Senedd, he’d now be the MS, and the party organisation on the ground intact. HMJ is toxic.

Will Adam Price read and take note of this comment? I understand the territory much more than any management consultant lobby spivs he will no doubt show his ear to. But I don’t hold out much hope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/senedd-elections-hard-left-to-win-by-stealth/#comment-40225">Red Flag</a>.</p>
<p>If you approach the Senedd election with the objective of winning national independence then we must accept that the key is to win the valleys and coastal cities which has well over half of the population of our country. Not only that, as the Senedd is constituted 40 seats constituency and 20 seats regional, the key is also constituency wins. Plaid Cymru is the only party to seriously make this challenge, but it has failed. Not for want of the voters, but by organisational failure.</p>
<p>In the lead up to these elections we see they committed three acts of self-harm. They starved Rhondda , slit their throat in Cardiff West and set themselves on fire in Llanelli. </p>
<p>It is a repeat of what happened after 1999, where they held Rhondda, Llanelli and Islwyn. Curry plots, internal manoeuvres against elected members and also diverting resources. It was a retreat to Fro Gymraeg then, and a retreat to Fro Gymraeg now. Plaid Cymru might well find solace, as before, in some regional members being elected, but that is dint of the electoral system rather than community based support.  </p>
<p>So lets look at the constituencies.</p>
<p>Rhondda.<br />
Leanne Wood was right when she said, at the time, that Geraint Davies lost Rhondda because he became bogged down in constituent matters. That’s a job to delegate to staff and other cadres to develop as community campaigns. Yet, this is exactly what she did when she became constituency MS. More often found packing tins of beans at the food bank than leading campaigns, which Buffy did. Had Leanne done so, she’d still be MS.</p>
<p>Cardiff West.<br />
Saying the wrong thing can be laughed off, doing the right thing has to be cherished. McEvoy never was the best cup of tea in the conference room, but as a community champion he’s gold dust. Ostracising him was an act of self harm. Had he been tolerated rather than witch-hunted, he’d mow be a Plaid Cymru MS.</p>
<p>Llanelli.<br />
You cannot impose candidates onto a constituency and attack it’s volunteers calling them deadwood, and then impose a candidate, firstly from outside for Westminster, and then someone who is in fact a rotting trunk to stand for Senedd. Had Sean Rees stood for Westminster, he would have grown the vote but lost, and had he then stood for Senedd, he’d now be the MS, and the party organisation on the ground intact. HMJ is toxic.</p>
<p>Will Adam Price read and take note of this comment? I understand the territory much more than any management consultant lobby spivs he will no doubt show his ear to. But I don’t hold out much hope.</p>
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		By: Red Flag		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2021 13:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wales final result:-
 Lab 30 (+1)
Con - 16 (+5)
PC - 13 (+1)
LD - 1 (nc)

Very unexpected result by the pundits as far as Labour are concerned - in fact they sound like they didn&#039;t expect it &quot;exceeded expectations&quot; according to Drakeford.  Plaid are gutted - Tories have overtaken them.

The forecast was 
Lab between 24-29 seats
Con between 14-17  
PC between 10-16
AWAP between 1-4
LD between 0-1
Oth between 0-1 (from Propel, Green, or Reform UK)

So it looks like Labour &#038; Tory profited at Plaid&#039;s and AWAP&#039;s expense in the main.  (certainly Labour whose +1 is Rhondda that they took from Plaid)
Aa]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wales final result:-<br />
 Lab 30 (+1)<br />
Con &#8211; 16 (+5)<br />
PC &#8211; 13 (+1)<br />
LD &#8211; 1 (nc)</p>
<p>Very unexpected result by the pundits as far as Labour are concerned &#8211; in fact they sound like they didn&#8217;t expect it &#8220;exceeded expectations&#8221; according to Drakeford.  Plaid are gutted &#8211; Tories have overtaken them.</p>
<p>The forecast was<br />
Lab between 24-29 seats<br />
Con between 14-17<br />
PC between 10-16<br />
AWAP between 1-4<br />
LD between 0-1<br />
Oth between 0-1 (from Propel, Green, or Reform UK)</p>
<p>So it looks like Labour &amp; Tory profited at Plaid&#8217;s and AWAP&#8217;s expense in the main.  (certainly Labour whose +1 is Rhondda that they took from Plaid)<br />
Aa</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dafis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2021 10:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yet another Labour M.P Khalid Mahmood shows that there are pockets of grounded thinking within that party. Jac rightly concludes that Welsh Labour may have been able, thus far, to avoid the worst ravages of a wokey infestation but ...... 

Now that Plaid is bust, totally freeze framed with a prospect of fading even further into the gloom of political impotence, Labour had better watch out. Many of these ultras were originally hard core &quot;leftist&quot; agitators though they wouldn&#039;t know real socialism if it bit them on the arse. They will shortly be homeless as they will core out Plaid like ants on a rotting apple and where will they go next ? Most of the other parties are savvy enough not to put up with the bullshit so hopping onto the Labour movement in Wales is a logical progression. Will Labour have enough meanness to withstand such intrusion ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another Labour M.P Khalid Mahmood shows that there are pockets of grounded thinking within that party. Jac rightly concludes that Welsh Labour may have been able, thus far, to avoid the worst ravages of a wokey infestation but &#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>Now that Plaid is bust, totally freeze framed with a prospect of fading even further into the gloom of political impotence, Labour had better watch out. Many of these ultras were originally hard core &#8220;leftist&#8221; agitators though they wouldn&#8217;t know real socialism if it bit them on the arse. They will shortly be homeless as they will core out Plaid like ants on a rotting apple and where will they go next ? Most of the other parties are savvy enough not to put up with the bullshit so hopping onto the Labour movement in Wales is a logical progression. Will Labour have enough meanness to withstand such intrusion ?</p>
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