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		By: garrywgibbs "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more"		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40914&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Transgender fundamentalism is antagonistic to both science and religion because it contradicts the established truths of both, established historically by an authoritative majority.
If the debate starts with that as a clear and universally accepted fact, then we can talk.
If, however, science and religion is now being positioned as wrong or mistaken on gender, then I can&#039;t see how we can. Why haven&#039;t scientists and religious leaders admitted that they got it wrong and there never was a male and a female?
I understand how people can be non-binary as an emotional or psychological condition which does not need to be psychopathologised and is a personal choice. 
Full physical transformation, however, is an illusion we enable others to live out of human kindness and compassion from one to another.
You must never force everyone to do so by law, however, with draconian threats because then you would be punishing people for speaking clear and universally accepted fact established historically by an authoritative majority.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40914">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>Transgender fundamentalism is antagonistic to both science and religion because it contradicts the established truths of both, established historically by an authoritative majority.<br />
If the debate starts with that as a clear and universally accepted fact, then we can talk.<br />
If, however, science and religion is now being positioned as wrong or mistaken on gender, then I can&#8217;t see how we can. Why haven&#8217;t scientists and religious leaders admitted that they got it wrong and there never was a male and a female?<br />
I understand how people can be non-binary as an emotional or psychological condition which does not need to be psychopathologised and is a personal choice.<br />
Full physical transformation, however, is an illusion we enable others to live out of human kindness and compassion from one to another.<br />
You must never force everyone to do so by law, however, with draconian threats because then you would be punishing people for speaking clear and universally accepted fact established historically by an authoritative majority.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 10:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40913&quot;&gt;Candy&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&#039;It’s not new and the reason this has changed so much, that you can feel threatened by these fae (sic) fruitloops, is due to acceptance of diversity which was hard fought for, and not quietly.&#039;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, you&#039;re right, there is a greater acceptance of diversity. I&#039;m old enough to appreciate that more than you. But there are reasons for the fightback against the extremists of the trans movement, which you must be well aware of.

To begin with, many of those involved are unhinged exhibitionists demanding attention. Then, when they get attention, they claim to feel &#039;threatened&#039;. They always feel threatened, because that&#039;s another way of getting the attention they crave.

Then there&#039;s the fact that an overwhelming majority of people believe that a person with a penis and testicles is a man, and should not be allowed into spaces reserved for biological women and girls.

Perhaps you can explain why biological men who identify as women are put in female prisons but biological women who identify as men are never incarcerated in men&#039;s prisons. A puzzler, that.

After surgery, a trans woman could probably be allowed in women&#039;s spaces. But the advantages of male puberty mean that no trans woman should be allowed in women&#039;s sport.

The overwhelming majority of sensible, rational people do not believe that 12-year-olds should be allowed to make life-changing choices because they feel a bit different at that moment, or because they&#039;ve had a row with their parents.

Finally, for me, there is the obvious fact that since losing the (white) working class the far left, intent on undermining the West I will fight for, has weaponised climate, race and gender.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40913">Candy</a>.</p>
<p><em><strong>&#8216;It’s not new and the reason this has changed so much, that you can feel threatened by these fae (sic) fruitloops, is due to acceptance of diversity which was hard fought for, and not quietly.&#8217;</strong></em></p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, there is a greater acceptance of diversity. I&#8217;m old enough to appreciate that more than you. But there are reasons for the fightback against the extremists of the trans movement, which you must be well aware of.</p>
<p>To begin with, many of those involved are unhinged exhibitionists demanding attention. Then, when they get attention, they claim to feel &#8216;threatened&#8217;. They always feel threatened, because that&#8217;s another way of getting the attention they crave.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the fact that an overwhelming majority of people believe that a person with a penis and testicles is a man, and should not be allowed into spaces reserved for biological women and girls.</p>
<p>Perhaps you can explain why biological men who identify as women are put in female prisons but biological women who identify as men are never incarcerated in men&#8217;s prisons. A puzzler, that.</p>
<p>After surgery, a trans woman could probably be allowed in women&#8217;s spaces. But the advantages of male puberty mean that no trans woman should be allowed in women&#8217;s sport.</p>
<p>The overwhelming majority of sensible, rational people do not believe that 12-year-olds should be allowed to make life-changing choices because they feel a bit different at that moment, or because they&#8217;ve had a row with their parents.</p>
<p>Finally, for me, there is the obvious fact that since losing the (white) working class the far left, intent on undermining the West I will fight for, has weaponised climate, race and gender.</p>
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		By: Candy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40904&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Honestly, who are you people? What does Welsh independence have to do with trans people like myself? My girlfriend, she does indeed have a penis, and undoubtedly is a woman. The bloke who works at the chippy can see that without needing any help - in other words, she passes. 

Is he a satanist too? 

Quietly accepting diversity in the comments section, are we?

I&#039;m sorry to say that the points the author feels are self evident are not evident to me at all. This is a beautiful example of what someone might do when they have nothing but ad hominem arguments, and it doesn&#039;t hold water. 

Mrs Boyle can wear what she likes, I&#039;m sure. What is the obsession with the straw (person?) you&#039;re trying to paint here? As an attempt at humour it falls short for a trans person because, honestly, it shows so little understanding of what any of the people you&#039;re ridiculing are actually like, or what they have to say. 

There&#039;s actual politics to get on with you know? We don&#039;t want to waste everyone&#039;s time with this, we&#039;re looking for equal human rights (yes I mean that. To freely marry in our lived genders for instance) and to get on with preventing the world burning. But we can&#039;t get very far because people like you who really could know better, are determined to speak false words for us, and slow us down. 

It&#039;s not new and the reason this has changed so much, that you can feel threatened by these fae fruitloops, is due to acceptance of diversity which was hard fought for, and not quietly. 

I&#039;m not looking to change anyone&#039;s mind here, I don&#039;t need to, this outlook is coming through a fun-house mirror and I don&#039;t expect anyone to imagine I can think straight enough to have a point to make about my own lived experiences, by Inverted virtue of being one of these degenerates, I am no longer felt to have the ability to speak for myself, so how wonderful that you&#039;ve stepped in to give &#039;my people&#039; a voice here. You&#039;re clearly deeply informed about these matters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40904">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>Honestly, who are you people? What does Welsh independence have to do with trans people like myself? My girlfriend, she does indeed have a penis, and undoubtedly is a woman. The bloke who works at the chippy can see that without needing any help &#8211; in other words, she passes. </p>
<p>Is he a satanist too? </p>
<p>Quietly accepting diversity in the comments section, are we?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to say that the points the author feels are self evident are not evident to me at all. This is a beautiful example of what someone might do when they have nothing but ad hominem arguments, and it doesn&#8217;t hold water. </p>
<p>Mrs Boyle can wear what she likes, I&#8217;m sure. What is the obsession with the straw (person?) you&#8217;re trying to paint here? As an attempt at humour it falls short for a trans person because, honestly, it shows so little understanding of what any of the people you&#8217;re ridiculing are actually like, or what they have to say. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s actual politics to get on with you know? We don&#8217;t want to waste everyone&#8217;s time with this, we&#8217;re looking for equal human rights (yes I mean that. To freely marry in our lived genders for instance) and to get on with preventing the world burning. But we can&#8217;t get very far because people like you who really could know better, are determined to speak false words for us, and slow us down. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not new and the reason this has changed so much, that you can feel threatened by these fae fruitloops, is due to acceptance of diversity which was hard fought for, and not quietly. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not looking to change anyone&#8217;s mind here, I don&#8217;t need to, this outlook is coming through a fun-house mirror and I don&#8217;t expect anyone to imagine I can think straight enough to have a point to make about my own lived experiences, by Inverted virtue of being one of these degenerates, I am no longer felt to have the ability to speak for myself, so how wonderful that you&#8217;ve stepped in to give &#8216;my people&#8217; a voice here. You&#8217;re clearly deeply informed about these matters.</p>
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		By: Preseli		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40907</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2021 18:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hilarious , give the writer the job of writing for Pobl y Cwm.]]></description>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40905&quot;&gt;Dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

.. and, as if proof was ever needed we now have a series of disclosures about the shifty dealings by Carlo ( you know, the guy made famous by a Daf Iwan song) and his entitled entourage which mark him out as unfit to clean the boots of guys like Greavesie and Cliff who were real sporting nobility. Carlo and his bunch of cnuts do nothing other than grab loot from wherever they can get it, make token gestures in return, and sponge off the country without the slightest pang of conscience. And people still queue to wave at this piece of shit. Is there any hope for some clarity of vision among the loyalist herd here and elsewhere in this divided UK ?]]></description>
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<p>.. and, as if proof was ever needed we now have a series of disclosures about the shifty dealings by Carlo ( you know, the guy made famous by a Daf Iwan song) and his entitled entourage which mark him out as unfit to clean the boots of guys like Greavesie and Cliff who were real sporting nobility. Carlo and his bunch of cnuts do nothing other than grab loot from wherever they can get it, make token gestures in return, and sponge off the country without the slightest pang of conscience. And people still queue to wave at this piece of shit. Is there any hope for some clarity of vision among the loyalist herd here and elsewhere in this divided UK ?</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A million miles off topic but much closer to my heart - so good to see that tweet featuring Cliff Jones who played a key role in making Jimmy Greaves great at Spurs in the early 60&#039;s. I can vaguely recall Greaves coming back after a short stint in Milan or Turin, scoring goals but otherwise wasn&#039;t much joy for him and slotting in to that Spurs machine that had just won the 60-61 Double where Cliff was a well established and critical cog with guys like Mackay, Blanchflower, White, Smith and other greats. Medwin was in and out along with Mel Hopkins, but those were the days that despite all the hard tackling and heavy wet leather balls a club would get through a league season with less than 20 players. Now it takes a jumbo jet to shift a squad around ! I read of Les Allen thinking there was no room for him when Greaves arrived, now they&#039;d have about 7 or 8 hanging about for places in match day squad !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A million miles off topic but much closer to my heart &#8211; so good to see that tweet featuring Cliff Jones who played a key role in making Jimmy Greaves great at Spurs in the early 60&#8217;s. I can vaguely recall Greaves coming back after a short stint in Milan or Turin, scoring goals but otherwise wasn&#8217;t much joy for him and slotting in to that Spurs machine that had just won the 60-61 Double where Cliff was a well established and critical cog with guys like Mackay, Blanchflower, White, Smith and other greats. Medwin was in and out along with Mel Hopkins, but those were the days that despite all the hard tackling and heavy wet leather balls a club would get through a league season with less than 20 players. Now it takes a jumbo jet to shift a squad around ! I read of Les Allen thinking there was no room for him when Greaves arrived, now they&#8217;d have about 7 or 8 hanging about for places in match day squad !</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2021 20:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40903&quot;&gt;Dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

If I was the London government I suppose would play up the SNP&#039;s position on &#039;trans rights&#039;. Though it won&#039;t be as effective as it might once have been. For two reasons. 

First, Boris and his gang are very unpopular in Scotland; to the point where no matter what they say it will be rejected by most voters.

Second, it&#039;s no longer just the SNP (and the Greens) pushing independence. The emergence of Alba has provided a very useful counter-balance that can tell people, &#039;Independence doesn&#039;t have to be what the SNP wants&#039;. 

And here&#039;s the lesson for Wales. If the only vision of independence being offered was that from Stalin worshippers who believe women have penises then independence was fucked. There have to be alternative visions.

It&#039;s the potential they posed to damage the indy movement that guarantees there will always be suspicions that there was some guiding hand behind the YC takeover. It will be interesting to see how they proceed now that they are no longer part of YC. And how much publicity they get.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40903">Dafis</a>.</p>
<p>If I was the London government I suppose would play up the SNP&#8217;s position on &#8216;trans rights&#8217;. Though it won&#8217;t be as effective as it might once have been. For two reasons. </p>
<p>First, Boris and his gang are very unpopular in Scotland; to the point where no matter what they say it will be rejected by most voters.</p>
<p>Second, it&#8217;s no longer just the SNP (and the Greens) pushing independence. The emergence of Alba has provided a very useful counter-balance that can tell people, &#8216;Independence doesn&#8217;t have to be what the SNP wants&#8217;. </p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the lesson for Wales. If the only vision of independence being offered was that from Stalin worshippers who believe women have penises then independence was fucked. There have to be alternative visions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the potential they posed to damage the indy movement that guarantees there will always be suspicions that there was some guiding hand behind the YC takeover. It will be interesting to see how they proceed now that they are no longer part of YC. And how much publicity they get.</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2021 18:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/reverend-bobbins-speaks-to-the-nation/#comment-40902&quot;&gt;Dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

I meant to go on to say that we had a good snapshot of that monumental mess when the pirates took over the good ship Yes Cymru. They may have dived over the side by now but that ship is damaged below the water line and will struggle to recover. The damage done to Scottish ambitions remains to be seen. 

Despite strong opinion polls I have an awful feeling that the real crunch will come at Indy-ref time when people who are otherwise supportive will see the prospect of a new &quot;sectarianism&quot; based on ridiculous gender ideology as too rich to stomach and will baulk, enabling the Union to survive.]]></description>
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<p>I meant to go on to say that we had a good snapshot of that monumental mess when the pirates took over the good ship Yes Cymru. They may have dived over the side by now but that ship is damaged below the water line and will struggle to recover. The damage done to Scottish ambitions remains to be seen. </p>
<p>Despite strong opinion polls I have an awful feeling that the real crunch will come at Indy-ref time when people who are otherwise supportive will see the prospect of a new &#8220;sectarianism&#8221; based on ridiculous gender ideology as too rich to stomach and will baulk, enabling the Union to survive.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2021 17:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[just seen your tweet about the latest SNP bungle and &quot;now looking tired and gaffe prone&quot;. Jac they been looking like that for ages ever since they started drifting off to their obsession with gays, trans and any other identity fixation that very few people place high in their priorities. They are so out of tune that I find it hard to believe the electorate have any faith in them . Obviously there are some MSP&#039;s who do a 1st class job to retain credibility but Sturgeon and her inner circle are now turning into a bunch of duds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just seen your tweet about the latest SNP bungle and &#8220;now looking tired and gaffe prone&#8221;. Jac they been looking like that for ages ever since they started drifting off to their obsession with gays, trans and any other identity fixation that very few people place high in their priorities. They are so out of tune that I find it hard to believe the electorate have any faith in them . Obviously there are some MSP&#8217;s who do a 1st class job to retain credibility but Sturgeon and her inner circle are now turning into a bunch of duds.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2021 16:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The script is quite amateur, rather like the style (but not in content) of a Young Farmers&#039; Club Noson Lawen in Outer Maesteg. It gets more real when Lassie comes on stage with a sloppy tongue salivating over Transgender Sheep. This shower of weirdos are now joyfully fully finished, but in their short Trans Taliban fashion they ruined &#039;YesCymru&#039;. I say Taliban as both dislike giving equal status to real females - or in fact anyone with real knickers and no jock strap.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The script is quite amateur, rather like the style (but not in content) of a Young Farmers&#8217; Club Noson Lawen in Outer Maesteg. It gets more real when Lassie comes on stage with a sloppy tongue salivating over Transgender Sheep. This shower of weirdos are now joyfully fully finished, but in their short Trans Taliban fashion they ruined &#8216;YesCymru&#8217;. I say Taliban as both dislike giving equal status to real females &#8211; or in fact anyone with real knickers and no jock strap.</p>
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