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		By: selfelin		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3469</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[selfelin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-2034&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Yn union]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-2034">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>Yn union</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3434</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3433&quot;&gt;Harri&lt;/a&gt;.

Can&#039;t be bothered to track you, &#039;Harri&#039;, you obviously don&#039;t know anything, and you have nothing to say beyond childish insults. You&#039;re just a wind-up merchant. Go away and amuse yourself elsewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3433">Harri</a>.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t be bothered to track you, &#8216;Harri&#8217;, you obviously don&#8217;t know anything, and you have nothing to say beyond childish insults. You&#8217;re just a wind-up merchant. Go away and amuse yourself elsewhere.</p>
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		By: Harri		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why am I not surprised, eh? I&#039;d thought that this was a site for grown-ups. I was clearly wrong. Anyway, good luck with your ever amusing efforts to change the march of progress. 

I was particularly amused by your claim on 2/6/24 at 11:08 &quot;I&#039;m trying to ensure that the history of my people is not expunged.........&quot;. Surely you mean your skewed version of the history and since when have we been &quot;your people&quot;. Cheeky twerp!

In the meantime carry on giving us a laugh, you&#039;re almost as funny as Max Boyce.

I&#039;ll return soon from another of my IP addresses and look forwards to the chase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why am I not surprised, eh? I&#8217;d thought that this was a site for grown-ups. I was clearly wrong. Anyway, good luck with your ever amusing efforts to change the march of progress. </p>
<p>I was particularly amused by your claim on 2/6/24 at 11:08 &#8220;I&#8217;m trying to ensure that the history of my people is not expunged&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;. Surely you mean your skewed version of the history and since when have we been &#8220;your people&#8221;. Cheeky twerp!</p>
<p>In the meantime carry on giving us a laugh, you&#8217;re almost as funny as Max Boyce.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll return soon from another of my IP addresses and look forwards to the chase.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3421</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3418&quot;&gt;Harri&lt;/a&gt;.

Guess what! You&#039;re banned from here too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3418">Harri</a>.</p>
<p>Guess what! You&#8217;re banned from here too.</p>
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		By: Harri		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3418</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 19:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Jac, that&#039;s a nice aggressive start, we&#039;ll probably get on well. I don&#039;t do Twitter but I always post as Harri and I&#039;ve the great honour of being banned from a few places around Wales when the language zealots and nationalist just can&#039;t bear to hear the views of an ordinary bloke who was born and bred in Wales and lives here and doesn&#039;t want Welsh as part ofmy life as it never has been. I don&#039;t wish to pay for it either.

In my view the money would be better spent on creating an infrastructure for all, rather than unsuccessfully promoting a language for just a few zealots.

As far as nationalism is concerned, I&#039;m perfectly content with being British. After all, being British is what gives me my safety, security and prosperity that I currently enjoy. I have racked my brains, such as they are, to see what being Welsh has ever done for me, apart, of course, from being the butt of many a joke from others. I usually tell folks that I&#039;m from Cardiff and thst we just put up with the language zealots and nationalists.

ShallI look forwards to being banned from here if you disagree with my views? It seems to be the form amongst Welsh language fans and nationalists.

Hopefully, I&#039;ll hear from you soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Jac, that&#8217;s a nice aggressive start, we&#8217;ll probably get on well. I don&#8217;t do Twitter but I always post as Harri and I&#8217;ve the great honour of being banned from a few places around Wales when the language zealots and nationalist just can&#8217;t bear to hear the views of an ordinary bloke who was born and bred in Wales and lives here and doesn&#8217;t want Welsh as part ofmy life as it never has been. I don&#8217;t wish to pay for it either.</p>
<p>In my view the money would be better spent on creating an infrastructure for all, rather than unsuccessfully promoting a language for just a few zealots.</p>
<p>As far as nationalism is concerned, I&#8217;m perfectly content with being British. After all, being British is what gives me my safety, security and prosperity that I currently enjoy. I have racked my brains, such as they are, to see what being Welsh has ever done for me, apart, of course, from being the butt of many a joke from others. I usually tell folks that I&#8217;m from Cardiff and thst we just put up with the language zealots and nationalists.</p>
<p>ShallI look forwards to being banned from here if you disagree with my views? It seems to be the form amongst Welsh language fans and nationalists.</p>
<p>Hopefully, I&#8217;ll hear from you soon.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3374</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2014 09:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3345&quot;&gt;Harri&lt;/a&gt;.

Seem to have heard all this before on Twitter. Which of the ranters are you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3345">Harri</a>.</p>
<p>Seem to have heard all this before on Twitter. Which of the ranters are you?</p>
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		By: Harri		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-3345</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2014 16:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice try, Jac, but no ceegar. Your rant about days gone by has little relevance in the modern world. You may be assured that the Wales that you hearken back to is gone forever. The number of Welsh speakers diminishes by the day and nationalism is something of a dirty word associated with noisy nuisances.

Why not accept these facts and rejoice in being part of the UK which has provided you with the prosperity, security and safety that you currently enjoy.

Wales and the Welsh are an integral part of the rich diversity which has made Great Britain far greater than the sum of its parts.

Drop your clear hatred of England and the English and just leave it as a bit of rivalry on the field of play.

Don&#039;t worry, Jac, our history won&#039;t be forgotten. The cowardly act of Owen Glyndwr in running away from his opponents and skulking in hiding for the rest of his miserable life will not be forgotten. Neither will the outrageous hypocrisy and cowardice of Gwynfor Evans, the self proclaimed &#039;pacifist&#039; who, during the war, hid himself in deepest Wales growing tomatoes for profit whilst true pacifists were on the field of battle tending to the dying and wounded of both sides whilst unarmed. They drew the respect and thsnks from all, unlike Evans who just sought to protect his miserable skin.

Yes, Jac, Wales has much to remember.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try, Jac, but no ceegar. Your rant about days gone by has little relevance in the modern world. You may be assured that the Wales that you hearken back to is gone forever. The number of Welsh speakers diminishes by the day and nationalism is something of a dirty word associated with noisy nuisances.</p>
<p>Why not accept these facts and rejoice in being part of the UK which has provided you with the prosperity, security and safety that you currently enjoy.</p>
<p>Wales and the Welsh are an integral part of the rich diversity which has made Great Britain far greater than the sum of its parts.</p>
<p>Drop your clear hatred of England and the English and just leave it as a bit of rivalry on the field of play.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Jac, our history won&#8217;t be forgotten. The cowardly act of Owen Glyndwr in running away from his opponents and skulking in hiding for the rest of his miserable life will not be forgotten. Neither will the outrageous hypocrisy and cowardice of Gwynfor Evans, the self proclaimed &#8216;pacifist&#8217; who, during the war, hid himself in deepest Wales growing tomatoes for profit whilst true pacifists were on the field of battle tending to the dying and wounded of both sides whilst unarmed. They drew the respect and thsnks from all, unlike Evans who just sought to protect his miserable skin.</p>
<p>Yes, Jac, Wales has much to remember.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-2526</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2014 10:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-2525&quot;&gt;Graeme&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not trying to change the past. I&#039;m trying to ensure that the history of my people is not expunged from the record, as some have tried to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-2525">Graeme</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to change the past. I&#8217;m trying to ensure that the history of my people is not expunged from the record, as some have tried to do.</p>
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		By: Graeme		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-2525</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graeme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2014 09:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[you&#039;re living in the past. nothing you can possibly say or do will change what happened.  Instead, think of the future - and the things you say or do now CAN change that.  Doesn&#039;t matter where we came from, we&#039;re all on this planet together. No I don&#039;t vote Labour - Hitler failed because he was a faggot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re living in the past. nothing you can possibly say or do will change what happened.  Instead, think of the future &#8211; and the things you say or do now CAN change that.  Doesn&#8217;t matter where we came from, we&#8217;re all on this planet together. No I don&#8217;t vote Labour &#8211; Hitler failed because he was a faggot.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-2111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-2110&quot;&gt;daffy2012&lt;/a&gt;.

This is the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. But it also explains why, since the reawakening of the 1960s, the British State has done everything in its power, short of Clearances and assisted migration schemes, to bring into Wales as many English people as possible. 

On the plus side, the two devolution referenda and various surveys, have shown us that Welsh - even Welsh-only - identification is shared by Welsh speakers and anglophones. But even so, given that there are now so many English in Wales it would require a massive majority from the Welsh to win any independence referendum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/march-of-the-foederati/#comment-2110">daffy2012</a>.</p>
<p>This is the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. But it also explains why, since the reawakening of the 1960s, the British State has done everything in its power, short of Clearances and assisted migration schemes, to bring into Wales as many English people as possible. </p>
<p>On the plus side, the two devolution referenda and various surveys, have shown us that Welsh &#8211; even Welsh-only &#8211; identification is shared by Welsh speakers and anglophones. But even so, given that there are now so many English in Wales it would require a massive majority from the Welsh to win any independence referendum.</p>
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