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		By: Gaynor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gaynor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40733&quot;&gt;Boyo Cwm Glo&lt;/a&gt;.

Bethan Sayed, the Ultimate Virtue Signallin Politicuan (UVSP for future ref!!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40733">Boyo Cwm Glo</a>.</p>
<p>Bethan Sayed, the Ultimate Virtue Signallin Politicuan (UVSP for future ref!!)</p>
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		By: David Robins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Robins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40740&quot;&gt;cymrosmith&lt;/a&gt;.

Cymrosmith, common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange pre-supposes people with the competence to manage the same.  That&#039;s why they don&#039;t talk about it.  Student politics is all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40740">cymrosmith</a>.</p>
<p>Cymrosmith, common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange pre-supposes people with the competence to manage the same.  That&#8217;s why they don&#8217;t talk about it.  Student politics is all.</p>
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		By: David Robins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Robins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40739&quot;&gt;cymrosmith&lt;/a&gt;.

Similar, but far more erudite.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40739">cymrosmith</a>.</p>
<p>Similar, but far more erudite.</p>
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		By: Alto Wyn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alto Wyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40742&quot;&gt;DAVID LEWIS&lt;/a&gt;.

Welcome back Daiiroko, we&#039;ve missed you. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity of repeating what the learned Doctor living next door to you allegedly told you Dai over the garden fence - &quot;Dai, your trouble is, you&#039;ve been educated beyond your intelligence!&quot;. We miss both of you. What are you both up to these days?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40742">DAVID LEWIS</a>.</p>
<p>Welcome back Daiiroko, we&#8217;ve missed you. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity of repeating what the learned Doctor living next door to you allegedly told you Dai over the garden fence &#8211; &#8220;Dai, your trouble is, you&#8217;ve been educated beyond your intelligence!&#8221;. We miss both of you. What are you both up to these days?</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2021 22:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40742&quot;&gt;DAVID LEWIS&lt;/a&gt;.

Dai, mun, we&#039;ve missed you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40742">DAVID LEWIS</a>.</p>
<p>Dai, mun, we&#8217;ve missed you!</p>
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		By: DAVID LEWIS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DAVID LEWIS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I say Jaco, a few brief observations on the news of your ‘retirement’. 
I genuinely respect the avenues you have provided/pioneered over the years for yourself and likeminded ‘Independence obsessives’ to ventilate your views on the matter. 
However, I couldn’t help smile at the irony of your ‘Goldwater’ quote; which I requote with adjustments:-
“Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies.”
Senator Barry Goldwater
I shall offend certain people by quoting this early influence on the basket cases that dominate (ad Nauseum) this site. But it doesn’t matter how you try to twist it, what Barry Goldwater says, could have been written about the sad people that yearn for  Independence for Wales.
Enjoy your retirement 

Daiiroko.

&quot;Moderation is absolutely essential in the pursuit of justice .”

God bless you, Barry /Jaco.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say Jaco, a few brief observations on the news of your ‘retirement’.<br />
I genuinely respect the avenues you have provided/pioneered over the years for yourself and likeminded ‘Independence obsessives’ to ventilate your views on the matter.<br />
However, I couldn’t help smile at the irony of your ‘Goldwater’ quote; which I requote with adjustments:-<br />
“Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies.”<br />
Senator Barry Goldwater<br />
I shall offend certain people by quoting this early influence on the basket cases that dominate (ad Nauseum) this site. But it doesn’t matter how you try to twist it, what Barry Goldwater says, could have been written about the sad people that yearn for  Independence for Wales.<br />
Enjoy your retirement </p>
<p>Daiiroko.</p>
<p>&#8220;Moderation is absolutely essential in the pursuit of justice .”</p>
<p>God bless you, Barry /Jaco.</p>
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		By: cymrosmith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cymrosmith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40699&quot;&gt;Dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

The &#039;S&#039; word is criminally misused by all stripes too. These loons may self-identify and borrow its iconography, but how many parties or groups are actually advocating full public ownership of the means of production? *Actual* Socialism. Labour and Plaid, economically at least, are merely offering something further left along a continuum which sits the Conservatives and the like. In other words, a mixed economy, the disagreement being on the relative proportions of the ingredients. Even &#039;old&#039; Labour could never be described as a Socialist government, as long as there was a space for private enterprise to operate. One with greater Socialist tendencies, certainly but never fully Socialist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40699">Dafis</a>.</p>
<p>The &#8216;S&#8217; word is criminally misused by all stripes too. These loons may self-identify and borrow its iconography, but how many parties or groups are actually advocating full public ownership of the means of production? *Actual* Socialism. Labour and Plaid, economically at least, are merely offering something further left along a continuum which sits the Conservatives and the like. In other words, a mixed economy, the disagreement being on the relative proportions of the ingredients. Even &#8216;old&#8217; Labour could never be described as a Socialist government, as long as there was a space for private enterprise to operate. One with greater Socialist tendencies, certainly but never fully Socialist.</p>
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		By: cymrosmith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cymrosmith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40713&quot;&gt;David Robins&lt;/a&gt;.

Is that an American equivalent of UnHerd?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40713">David Robins</a>.</p>
<p>Is that an American equivalent of UnHerd?</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dafis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2021 15:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40733&quot;&gt;Boyo Cwm Glo&lt;/a&gt;.

Those that you mention have all had their blemishes but to their credit they were well able to put Wales first. This more recent bunch are heavily into sectional interests and thus easily diverted from the main challenges at times appearing as though they are no longer interested in an independent country just hanging on to a well paid job and being in permanent opposition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40733">Boyo Cwm Glo</a>.</p>
<p>Those that you mention have all had their blemishes but to their credit they were well able to put Wales first. This more recent bunch are heavily into sectional interests and thus easily diverted from the main challenges at times appearing as though they are no longer interested in an independent country just hanging on to a well paid job and being in permanent opposition.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2021 12:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40734&quot;&gt;Dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sure they&#039;ve appeared on this blog, under various guises.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/yescymru-conspirators-flying-the-coup/#comment-40734">Dafis</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ve appeared on this blog, under various guises.</p>
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