What matters is who controls the party. And despite figurehead Adam Price the party is most definitely controlled by leftists.

But most of their councillors ard not left, they are right

The underwhelming regional lists….terrible choices

But he is saying the truth about PC being the only option at the mo as Gwlad and Mc Evoy have no hope in hell of gaining traction . That is plainly obvious to anybody who understands politics in Wales. Not that i have any faith in Plaid.

I attended some of the initial meetings of the party that was to become Gwlad, I was not impressed by the leader at the time and did not feel that he understood what was required to create a party that would make a positive contribution to the independence movement. The leadership changed and I felt that it could possibly be worth joining and contributing to its development. It declared unambiguously that its fundamental objective was the establishment of an independent Wales and that was what I wanted.

For several months I attended meetings of the steering committee and it was obvious that the members were dedicated to the cause of Welsh independence. Why therefore have I now left the party? My disillusionment stemmed from reading one of the campaigning leaflets they produced where second on its list of policies, after campaigning for Welsh Independence, was its tax and economic policy. Briefly it was proposing to pay everybody in Wales an income whether they worked or not. They were also proposing a flat tax system. There may be sound intellectual reasons for adopting such policies but I could not imagine myself standing on a voters doorstep in a wind and rainswept council estate in Milford Haven and convincing them that these were practical propositions. I then started to look at the way that Gwlad created its policies. I was surprised to see that the constitution did not describe the process of developing and adopting policy. It appeared that the creation of policy had been delegated to one person, it is true that there was an online forum but it seemed to me that it had no direct authority when it came to deciding what policies should be adopted. The manifesto would have been subject to approval by the national conference but this did not strike me as being a suitable mechanism for the creation of a coherent manifesto dedicated to campaigning for independence.

The citizens income and flat tax policies strike me as being revolutionary economic and social policies and I do not think that the average Welsh voter will countenance such major changes on top of the revolution that would be involved in becoming independent. If you want to pursue such radical policies do so after having achieved independence when they can be properly debated. Introducing them in a campaign for independence as part of the package will in my view wreck any such campaign.

I wish there were a party called Welsh Independence Party which campaigned for the establishment of a democratic Welsh parliament without prescribing the exact nature of the society that will be established after independence. If you trust the Welsh people let them decide.

Agreed, it’s concerning. Most, not all, of these lot come from money OR their aim is to make money. They feign concern for areas that are the speciality of Wales 3rd sector (the dross mongers as I’ll call them). Gareth is an interesting character but his heart is in the right place. Definitely need sustainable and efficient farming. Poseurs….. I wonder if beef & lamb are banned at mummy and daddy’s mansions? I bet not.

If the wokies turn on farmers that will be the green light for escalated response. It could be the tipping point where those relatively few men and women who care enough supported by those whose lives will be blighted will seek out the wokish militants and end their miserable lives. And the good news is that not many will grieve when they are done and gone .

Looks like I spoke too soon. Ye olde House of Lords has today rejected the anti-devolution clauses in the Internal Markets Bill. Over to you, Boris.

It might only be a matter of time before the wokies turn on farmers, and then human evolution and the growth of civilisation will have to be re-written.

While sharing our intense dislike of our posturing elites, take a look at this :

https://nation.cymru/news/celebrity-farmer-slams-oxford-students-for-vote-to-ban-beef-and-lamb/

Pampered juveniles at Oxbridge do their best to drive another dent into the prospects of family farms in Wales and rest of UK. These snivelling little cnuts are supposed to be the material from which future thought leaders and influencers emerge. The leadership elites in UK and dear old Wales more closely resemble the slime off a slurry pit down on the farm and this lot promise even worse for the future. .