{"id":3337,"date":"2013-09-11T12:54:05","date_gmt":"2013-09-11T11:54:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/?p=3337"},"modified":"2013-09-11T22:31:16","modified_gmt":"2013-09-11T21:31:16","slug":"cliffoch-unmasked","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/cliffoch-unmasked\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;Cliffoch&#8217; Unmasked!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Regular readers of Welsh blogs, Tweeters and others, will be familiar with the name &#8216;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CliffochapCliff\">Cliffoch ap Cliffoch<\/a>&#8216;, one of the many anti-Welsh trolls to be found in those spheres. Though of course, to <a href=\"http:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Twitter.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright  wp-image-3343\" alt=\"Twitter\" src=\"http:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Twitter.png\" width=\"354\" height=\"178\" \/><\/a>believe him, he&#8217;s not anti-Welsh at all. When it comes to the Welsh language he&#8217;s just against the teaching of it, and the displaying of it . . . in fact his attitude seems to be that Welsh should &#8211; like homosexuality in the 1950s &#8211; be restricted to consenting adults in private. He is, predictably, also opposed to devolution and many other things, but insists that he loves Wales. It&#8217;s just . . . well, he doesn&#8217;t like anything that makes Wales different to England. Even if it benefits Wales. When he&#8217;s pinned down, the truth is that his &#8216;Wales&#8217; must be no different to England in any important respect. Well, maybe a rugby team.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Cliffoch&#8217; came on mighty strong to my post yesterday on my <a href=\"http:\/\/jacothenorth.tumblr.com\/\">Tumblr blog<\/a>. This was a harmless enough report on the squashing of the Severn Barrage project. I can only assume that he was animated by the reference I made to &#8216;Howell Morgan&#8217;, who had posted a comment to the WalesOnline version of the story. There, and in various tweets, he called me a coward, a cretin and a few other things my Mam would never have called me. I admitted I am no hero, but still confirmed that my name is Royston Jones and asked Cliffoch to give us his real name. He declined. (All this can be found on the Tumblr blog.) So I decided to make enquiries myself. The first stop was obviously the IP address, which gave me <a href=\"http:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Geneology.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-3338\" style=\"border: 1px solid black; margin: 1px;\" alt=\"Geneology\" src=\"http:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Geneology.png\" width=\"368\" height=\"316\" \/><\/a>a German or German-Swiss provider and located &#8216;Cliffoch&#8217; in Switzerland. Next, overnight, &#8216;Colwyn&#8217; was able to provide two links. The first (left) to a geneology site and the second (below) to a petition to the Assembly asking for Welsh speakers to have their tongues cut out . . . <em>sorry, sorry<\/em>, I&#8217;ve mis-read that, the petition is against the compulsory teaching of Welsh. (I.e. any teaching of Welsh.) It now seems likely beyond peradventure that &#8216;Cliffoch ap Cliffoch&#8217; is Christopher Stephen Clifford, born &#8211; or &#8220;originally born&#8221; (as he puts it) &#8211; in Neath, working in Zurich, but with a home base in the Aberavon constituency.<\/p>\n<p>What I find remarkable is that here we have a man who claims to have a Welsh-speaking mother, to have spent a lot of time when young with a grandmother who spoke more Welsh than English, who claims to have bilingual children, who has lived for years in a country with four official languages, and yet is so intolerant of another language &#8211; his maternal language &#8211; in Wales. Either this man is a liar, or his head is seriously screwed up. Or could his time in multilingual Switzerland have made him into what he is today? Another absurdity is that &#8216;Cliffoch&#8217; is forever spouting how the Welsh language deters investors. Yet he lives in one of the most <a href=\"http:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/petition.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright  wp-image-3340\" style=\"border: 1px solid black; margin: 1px;\" alt=\"petition\" src=\"http:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/petition.png\" width=\"455\" height=\"161\" \/><\/a>prosperous countries on earth, where people speak German, French, Italian and Romansch, with yet more languages spoken by the many immigrant groups. Multilingualism doesn&#8217;t seem to have done Switzerland any harm, yet we dumb Taffs are expected to believe that teaching Welsh will impoverish Wales! As if the Labour Party hasn&#8217;t already done that!<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>STATEMENT:<\/strong><\/span> I have spent a lot of time recently on a bunch of scumbags I&#8217;d rather have nothing to do with. It is demeaning, distasteful and distracting, and I don&#8217;t intend to do any more of it. There are far bigger fish to fry in Wales, organisations and individuals doing far more damage than the individual ranter. So in future I shall be focusing on more important issues than swivel-eyed Brit bigots. People who hide behind regularly changing pseudonyms that makes tracking them down akin to chasing one&#8217;s tail. Worse, perhaps, treating them seriously gives them a respect they don&#8217;t deserve, but of course it&#8217;s what they crave, so don&#8217;t engage with them, just let them talk to each other. When you are unfortunate enough to encounter one of them, just wipe the shit from your shoe and move on.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Regular readers of Welsh blogs, Tweeters and others, will be familiar with the name &#8216;Cliffoch ap Cliffoch&#8216;, one of the many anti-Welsh trolls to be found in those spheres. Though of course, to believe him, he&#8217;s not anti-Welsh at all. When it comes to the Welsh language he&#8217;s just against the teaching of it, and &hellip; <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/cliffoch-unmasked\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&#8216;Cliffoch&#8217; Unmasked!<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":124,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"give_campaign_id":0,"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[440,139],"tags":[500,501],"class_list":["post-3337","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-british-nationalism","category-cymrophobia","tag-cliffoch-ap-cliffoch","tag-zurich"],"acf":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3gS9T-RP","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3337","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/124"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3337"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3337\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3337"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3337"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jacothenorth.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3337"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}