It should have been recorded for posterity.

I think using Labour to try and excuse the Tories’ unionism is poor, but if you seriously want to vote for David Jones’ party, you have problems that I am not going to be able to rid you of, sadly.So feel free to keep complaining about what Labour has done for a century, whilst voting in a way that helps Labour. Good one.

I don’t always understand what you are trying to say and so I think, ‘Shall I persevere and decipher this, for surely there is great wisdom therein’ . . . but I invariably decide, ‘Nah, fuck it!’

… and what are countries other than a multitude of voices?
I find this break up and rebuild too fanciful. Will there be ‘Plaid Cymru Newydd’ with a charismatic leader who, armed with a dodgy dossier, will wage war on the eastern philistines? Will the EU crumble and revert back to pan-European conflict over the weird fundamental religion called neo-liberal economics?

Jac: After 22 May, are you going to get a metal nose like Tycho Brahe or will you leave the space as a tooth-gnarled stump?

I won’t repeat what I’ve already said, but you do have a point about an alternative nationalist voice. Obviously it’s too late for these elections but it might be feasible for the 2016 Assembly elections.

I know you weren’t trying to blackmail me, and I didn’t mean to suggest that.

In a nutshell . . . I don’t believe that Jill Evans, or any single MEP, makes a blind bit of difference in the EU. Only countries have real voices, and Wales will not get that voice through Plaid Cymru. Or, rather, that’s what I might say if I was in favour of the EU, but I’m not. The EU is something else that needs to be broken up and started again.

What I do stand by is that voting for the Conservative and unionist party is a betrayal of Wales. I am not saying to vote for Labour or Greens or anyone else either. But if someone claimed to be a Welsh nationalist and voted for the Tories, I would say to their face that they are
not loyal to Wales. Maybe part of the problem with Wales is Welsh people selling out to the unionist parties, rather than Plaid? It seems to me, and this is my personal view, that there is a tendency for people on the internet to moan about Plaid (usually anonymously) but then go on about voting for anti-Wales parties, or not do any activity of their own. Finally, I think Plaid Cymru’s message in this campaign is correct. Wales should remain in Europe, and Jill Evans would be a distinct voice compared to the other MEPs. I will stand by that but i don’t doubt for a minute, if Plaid loses its seat it will somehow be my fault, rather than the fault of those who voted for the London based party.

Once someone has convinced themselves in their head that the London based parties are somehow better than the only Wales based party, then they are serving the UK state.

Of the 11 parties mentioned above 3 are ultra British Nationalists who are unlikely to win 5% of the vote between them; if they can stand why are there no alternative national parties on the ballot paper? Where is Plaid Glyndwr? What happened to Independent Wales, the Welsh Socialist Republicans and Y Gweriniaethwyr? It’s not Plaid’s fault that they are the only Welsh National choice on the ballot slip, but the fault of those of us who are willing to snipe on twitter, but don’t have as much faith in our national cause as “Britain First” has in theirs to put up even a “no hope” candidate for election.

It is not blackmail nor an accusation of treachery to say that the only choices nationalists have, because WE are complicit in making them the only choices, are to vote FOR Wales by voting Plaid Cymru, to vote against Wales by voting for another party or to ignore Wales by not voting at all on Thursday.