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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tempoary part time work ? What will us valley boyos do with all that coin the mind boggles ?carrick kin nock on u bikes .         Dai will 16/11/15]]></description>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2014 10:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/vroom-vroom-its-the-next-gravy-train/#comment-669&quot;&gt;anon4cec&lt;/a&gt;.

There is a Go cart track attached- Are you looking at the wrong image? The Circuit of Wales design has an 80m+ height change over its length and everyone who knows anything about racing loves the design. Lots of camber, gradient changes and corners will produce exciting racing. The gradient change is more than any other UK Grand one circuit. During the months that we go racing April-October there is less rainfall in Ebbw Vale than at Silverstone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/vroom-vroom-its-the-next-gravy-train/#comment-669">anon4cec</a>.</p>
<p>There is a Go cart track attached- Are you looking at the wrong image? The Circuit of Wales design has an 80m+ height change over its length and everyone who knows anything about racing loves the design. Lots of camber, gradient changes and corners will produce exciting racing. The gradient change is more than any other UK Grand one circuit. During the months that we go racing April-October there is less rainfall in Ebbw Vale than at Silverstone.</p>
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		By: keith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2014 00:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just been going through Carricks Bullshit again and he states that 1.35 million days per year are spent by the british public at motorsport events and he reckons he is going to get 750,000 visitors, so at a stroke he has cornered over half the uk&#039;s total motorsport market, perhaps we will even see pigs flying over the circuit, for FF&#039;s sake wake up you politicians, councillors and dreamers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just been going through Carricks Bullshit again and he states that 1.35 million days per year are spent by the british public at motorsport events and he reckons he is going to get 750,000 visitors, so at a stroke he has cornered over half the uk&#8217;s total motorsport market, perhaps we will even see pigs flying over the circuit, for FF&#8217;s sake wake up you politicians, councillors and dreamers</p>
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		By: keith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2014 23:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I reckon Michael Carrick must have been tuaght by John Delorean, and in some ways you have  to admire him, he could gertainly sell ice to eskimo&#039;s, but ultimately the local people are being taken for a ride and will get hurt by yet another con man _anker banker, and the welsh assembly are yet again demonstrating their business prowess,i.e the film studios, cardiff airport, wales rally gb and now this, how much more of our money are they going to waste which should be put into schools and hospitals etc, and leave business to business people]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon Michael Carrick must have been tuaght by John Delorean, and in some ways you have  to admire him, he could gertainly sell ice to eskimo&#8217;s, but ultimately the local people are being taken for a ride and will get hurt by yet another con man _anker banker, and the welsh assembly are yet again demonstrating their business prowess,i.e the film studios, cardiff airport, wales rally gb and now this, how much more of our money are they going to waste which should be put into schools and hospitals etc, and leave business to business people</p>
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		By: easternlightening		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, Stumbled onto your blog whilst looking into the new circuit of Wales. I think you have hit the nail an almighty whack on the head! Your research ( far better than mine, although I did find a freedom of information request from the Welsh assembly that refused to say how much money the Welsh assembly is going to put into this venture....mmmmm.... !) confirms much about what I suspect. 
 People who don`t know much about motorsport tend to think it is awash with cash. They look at Silverstone GP with a huge crowd, each shelling out over a hundred quid and think &quot;Wow, loads of money!&quot; It is a load of money, but since Silverstone has to pay for the F1 bosses for the privilege of allowing 26 multi millionaires to drive around for 90 minutes, there is not a lot left when the crowds have departed and all that is left is litter and empty grandstands! GP`s are like the Olympics. They cost money and that money comes from the taxpayer at the vast majority of these events. ( This is why they are so keen for new circuits to join in, ie Dubai, India et al, the governments pay for these events).
 This smacks so much of the infamous Donington Park GP bid. It all ends with a lot of people out of pocket and the reputation of motorsport once again dragged through the mire. I am a huge motorsport fan, but I ( and most of my friends who are into motorsport ) snorted loudly when we heard the news about Donington. Unfortunately we all have a similar view on the new circuit of Wales.
 I hope I am wrong. I would gladly pay to watch a BTCC or a BSB round at the circuit. I would wear a t-shirt with the slogan &quot;I was wrong!&quot; around the place quite gladly. I will not be ordering the t shirt just yet I think.......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Stumbled onto your blog whilst looking into the new circuit of Wales. I think you have hit the nail an almighty whack on the head! Your research ( far better than mine, although I did find a freedom of information request from the Welsh assembly that refused to say how much money the Welsh assembly is going to put into this venture&#8230;.mmmmm&#8230;. !) confirms much about what I suspect.<br />
 People who don`t know much about motorsport tend to think it is awash with cash. They look at Silverstone GP with a huge crowd, each shelling out over a hundred quid and think &#8220;Wow, loads of money!&#8221; It is a load of money, but since Silverstone has to pay for the F1 bosses for the privilege of allowing 26 multi millionaires to drive around for 90 minutes, there is not a lot left when the crowds have departed and all that is left is litter and empty grandstands! GP`s are like the Olympics. They cost money and that money comes from the taxpayer at the vast majority of these events. ( This is why they are so keen for new circuits to join in, ie Dubai, India et al, the governments pay for these events).<br />
 This smacks so much of the infamous Donington Park GP bid. It all ends with a lot of people out of pocket and the reputation of motorsport once again dragged through the mire. I am a huge motorsport fan, but I ( and most of my friends who are into motorsport ) snorted loudly when we heard the news about Donington. Unfortunately we all have a similar view on the new circuit of Wales.<br />
 I hope I am wrong. I would gladly pay to watch a BTCC or a BSB round at the circuit. I would wear a t-shirt with the slogan &#8220;I was wrong!&#8221; around the place quite gladly. I will not be ordering the t shirt just yet I think&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/vroom-vroom-its-the-next-gravy-train/#comment-690&quot;&gt;Gareth R&lt;/a&gt;.

We seem to have got to the stage where nobody is taking this project seriously, nobody is really questioning its viability, with the result that those behind it think they can pluck figures out of thin air.]]></description>
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<p>We seem to have got to the stage where nobody is taking this project seriously, nobody is really questioning its viability, with the result that those behind it think they can pluck figures out of thin air.</p>
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		By: Gareth R		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The numbers get inflated seemingly day by day. Developers now saying 12,000 jobs http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/10497752.12_000_jobs_promised_at_Ebbw_Vale___s_Circuit_of_Wales/ Meanwhile, Blaenau Gwent Council employs approx 3,250 people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The numbers get inflated seemingly day by day. Developers now saying 12,000 jobs <a href="http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/10497752.12_000_jobs_promised_at_Ebbw_Vale___s_Circuit_of_Wales/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/10497752.12_000_jobs_promised_at_Ebbw_Vale___s_Circuit_of_Wales/</a> Meanwhile, Blaenau Gwent Council employs approx 3,250 people.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/vroom-vroom-its-the-next-gravy-train/#comment-674&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

And talking of interviews, have those behind the project given any?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/vroom-vroom-its-the-next-gravy-train/#comment-674">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>And talking of interviews, have those behind the project given any?</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/vroom-vroom-its-the-next-gravy-train/#comment-673&quot;&gt;daffy2012&lt;/a&gt;.

As he says, the circuit pays the race organiser or franchise-holder to bring an event to the circuit. If this is currently proving too expensive for Silverstone and Brand&#039;s Hatch, then how the hell will Ebbw Vale do it? The only way I can see it happening is if the Welsh Governmenment comes up with the money, again and again. Maybe this is what those behind the project are hoping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/vroom-vroom-its-the-next-gravy-train/#comment-673">daffy2012</a>.</p>
<p>As he says, the circuit pays the race organiser or franchise-holder to bring an event to the circuit. If this is currently proving too expensive for Silverstone and Brand&#8217;s Hatch, then how the hell will Ebbw Vale do it? The only way I can see it happening is if the Welsh Governmenment comes up with the money, again and again. Maybe this is what those behind the project are hoping.</p>
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		By: daffy2012		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here we are: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19265126]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we are: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19265126" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19265126</a></p>
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