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		By: Mel Morgan		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-34526</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mel Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Voting Brexit Party for independence strikes me as similar in logic to voting for smallpox because you&#039;re in favour of vaccination.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting Brexit Party for independence strikes me as similar in logic to voting for smallpox because you&#8217;re in favour of vaccination.</p>
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		By: David Smith		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33815</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 23:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you not think that the 600,000 or whatever English settlers in Wales swung the vote, especially given the demographic makeup of a lot of this number (i.e. old). I suppose it&#039;s sad but true that as much of this bloc as possible will need to be won over to have the best shot at winning a Welsh indyref.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you not think that the 600,000 or whatever English settlers in Wales swung the vote, especially given the demographic makeup of a lot of this number (i.e. old). I suppose it&#8217;s sad but true that as much of this bloc as possible will need to be won over to have the best shot at winning a Welsh indyref.</p>
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		By: Brychan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brychan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 09:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33629&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

In another Anglicisation of Wales report from the BBC tells us, today, that the Earl of Pembroke, William Marshal, is now honoured with a tapestry woven by a group of seven “feminist” women from Lewes in Sussex. This tapestry is to be displayed at Pembroke castle.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48432033

What the BBC fails to tell us is that William Marshal, who was a marcher lord resident at Chepstow got his hands on the castle at Pembroke by marrying Isabel de Clare, the daughter of Richard Fitz Gilbert de Clare. As a woman, Izzy the daughter and betrothed vassal, under English law of the time, could not be trusted to own property.

Before the occupation the laws of Hywel Dda would have allowed the woman own the land herself.  Good needlework ladies!]]></description>
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<p>In another Anglicisation of Wales report from the BBC tells us, today, that the Earl of Pembroke, William Marshal, is now honoured with a tapestry woven by a group of seven “feminist” women from Lewes in Sussex. This tapestry is to be displayed at Pembroke castle.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48432033" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48432033</a></p>
<p>What the BBC fails to tell us is that William Marshal, who was a marcher lord resident at Chepstow got his hands on the castle at Pembroke by marrying Isabel de Clare, the daughter of Richard Fitz Gilbert de Clare. As a woman, Izzy the daughter and betrothed vassal, under English law of the time, could not be trusted to own property.</p>
<p>Before the occupation the laws of Hywel Dda would have allowed the woman own the land herself.  Good needlework ladies!</p>
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		By: Brychan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brychan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2019 17:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33619&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

We see the BBC today, telling us that of the “Unusual Treasures of Wales” there is a Roman chariot. Trouble is, the chariot been dated to 600BC. The Romans did not arrive on the British Islands until 43AD, so the artefact was in fact a brythonic (early Welsh) artefact and nothing to do with the Romans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48414274

It also mentions the ‘cape of gold’ found near Mold, dating back to 1,700BC, but this of course is not in Wales. It is on display at the British Museum in London. Then it mentions the medieval ship found near Newport which it said sailed from the Basque “region of Spain” in 1450. It should be noted that this would have been from the kingdom of Navarra. That was not incorporated into Spain until 1876.

British Bullshit Corporation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33619">Brychan</a>.</p>
<p>We see the BBC today, telling us that of the “Unusual Treasures of Wales” there is a Roman chariot. Trouble is, the chariot been dated to 600BC. The Romans did not arrive on the British Islands until 43AD, so the artefact was in fact a brythonic (early Welsh) artefact and nothing to do with the Romans.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48414274" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48414274</a></p>
<p>It also mentions the ‘cape of gold’ found near Mold, dating back to 1,700BC, but this of course is not in Wales. It is on display at the British Museum in London. Then it mentions the medieval ship found near Newport which it said sailed from the Basque “region of Spain” in 1450. It should be noted that this would have been from the kingdom of Navarra. That was not incorporated into Spain until 1876.</p>
<p>British Bullshit Corporation.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2019 10:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33627&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

But of course Plaid will spin it into, &#039;Remain parties got more votes than Brexit Party&#039;, or &#039;Remain vote was split&#039;.]]></description>
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<p>But of course Plaid will spin it into, &#8216;Remain parties got more votes than Brexit Party&#8217;, or &#8216;Remain vote was split&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Brychan		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brychan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2019 04:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33610&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

In Carmarthenshire BREXIT party got more votes than PLAID CYMRU.

BX 19004
PC 18040
LAB 7263
LD 4598
GN 2853
CON 2339
UKIP 1855
CNG 1371

So I think that, Helen Mary Jones is toxic figure and it was a huge mistake to put her as the lead in the local Plaid Cymru campaign, and the party branch in Llanelli is dead after having been assainated by their own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33610">Brychan</a>.</p>
<p>In Carmarthenshire BREXIT party got more votes than PLAID CYMRU.</p>
<p>BX 19004<br />
PC 18040<br />
LAB 7263<br />
LD 4598<br />
GN 2853<br />
CON 2339<br />
UKIP 1855<br />
CNG 1371</p>
<p>So I think that, Helen Mary Jones is toxic figure and it was a huge mistake to put her as the lead in the local Plaid Cymru campaign, and the party branch in Llanelli is dead after having been assainated by their own.</p>
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		By: Big Gee		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33626</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2019 00:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33621&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

The panic is setting in big style Brychan. Britannia is sinking below the waves and there&#039;s an hysterical effort to stay afloat - using the same techniques as they always have.

They should note the result of Canute sitting on the sea shore demanding the tide not to come in!

I notice another attempt at unifying the &#039;British&#039; mindset in a recent production soon to be broadcast called &#039;Wales at war&#039;.

Pretty pathetic really. Talk about scraping the barrel!

It&#039;s akin to painting the funnels on the Titanic as it quietly sinks below the waves.]]></description>
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<p>The panic is setting in big style Brychan. Britannia is sinking below the waves and there&#8217;s an hysterical effort to stay afloat &#8211; using the same techniques as they always have.</p>
<p>They should note the result of Canute sitting on the sea shore demanding the tide not to come in!</p>
<p>I notice another attempt at unifying the &#8216;British&#8217; mindset in a recent production soon to be broadcast called &#8216;Wales at war&#8217;.</p>
<p>Pretty pathetic really. Talk about scraping the barrel!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s akin to painting the funnels on the Titanic as it quietly sinks below the waves.</p>
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		By: Big Gee		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33625</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2019 23:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33597&quot;&gt;Dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

If you knew the pedigree of the Plaid Council Leader in Ceredigion as I do, you would not be surprised Dafis.

I worked alongside her when I hosted a political current affairs programme on Radio Ceredigion years ago (Llais y Barcud). I worked with her as deputy chair of Plaid Ceredigion when she was chair, before my time as the chair, and spent time with her on the campaign trail. If you experienced that - you wouldn&#039;t have batted an eyelid when she allowed the Council to be scammed of big bucks for &#039;consultancy&#039; work by PricewaterhouseCoopers (doing business as PwC).

All show &#038; no substance - it&#039;s amazing how far it gets you, along with personal shopping trips to M&#038;S in Cardiff with the incumbent AM for Ceredigion. And cosying up to Dai Lloyd Evans and his cronies, when Llais Ceredigion stood in elections to block the Independents from staying in power. Basically a female shit-pot, who will never be forgiven for her treachery - which she probably thought was a &#039;clever&#039; move at the time.

A classic definition of Plaid Crachach - as they&#039;re known, but more often than not the dimmest light bulb in the room, coupled with an amazing naivety!

If neurons produced enough electricity to light a bulb, they wouldn&#039;t manage to light up a bicycle lamp between them!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33597">Dafis</a>.</p>
<p>If you knew the pedigree of the Plaid Council Leader in Ceredigion as I do, you would not be surprised Dafis.</p>
<p>I worked alongside her when I hosted a political current affairs programme on Radio Ceredigion years ago (Llais y Barcud). I worked with her as deputy chair of Plaid Ceredigion when she was chair, before my time as the chair, and spent time with her on the campaign trail. If you experienced that &#8211; you wouldn&#8217;t have batted an eyelid when she allowed the Council to be scammed of big bucks for &#8216;consultancy&#8217; work by PricewaterhouseCoopers (doing business as PwC).</p>
<p>All show &amp; no substance &#8211; it&#8217;s amazing how far it gets you, along with personal shopping trips to M&amp;S in Cardiff with the incumbent AM for Ceredigion. And cosying up to Dai Lloyd Evans and his cronies, when Llais Ceredigion stood in elections to block the Independents from staying in power. Basically a female shit-pot, who will never be forgiven for her treachery &#8211; which she probably thought was a &#8216;clever&#8217; move at the time.</p>
<p>A classic definition of Plaid Crachach &#8211; as they&#8217;re known, but more often than not the dimmest light bulb in the room, coupled with an amazing naivety!</p>
<p>If neurons produced enough electricity to light a bulb, they wouldn&#8217;t manage to light up a bicycle lamp between them!!</p>
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		By: Mick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2019 16:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33608&quot;&gt;Neil Singleton&lt;/a&gt;.

Not exactly true I.e I voted brexit as did many I know and I am a catholic. Btw, according to reports the turnout in n.ireland was 45% for the EU election. In a lot of traditionally nationalist areas the turnout was very poor. So despite all parties bar the unionists parties declaring the &#039;majority&#039; want to remain it hasn&#039;t roused the locals that much to even vote. That&#039;s despite the parties selling this election as a demonstration of the people&#039;s commitment to remain in the EU. Go figure.]]></description>
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<p>Not exactly true I.e I voted brexit as did many I know and I am a catholic. Btw, according to reports the turnout in n.ireland was 45% for the EU election. In a lot of traditionally nationalist areas the turnout was very poor. So despite all parties bar the unionists parties declaring the &#8216;majority&#8217; want to remain it hasn&#8217;t roused the locals that much to even vote. That&#8217;s despite the parties selling this election as a demonstration of the people&#8217;s commitment to remain in the EU. Go figure.</p>
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		By: Mick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2019 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/voting-brexit-party-for-welsh-independence/#comment-33559&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

I am afraid the Irish nationalist parties have the same mentality as Plaid I.e they wanna stop brexit even though I believe(as do others) that brexit offers a great chance of irish unification. I voted brexit in the small hope that this indeed would create turmoil for the UK.  The status quoers in Ireland pay lip service to Irish unity allthewhile bricking it if it indeed comes on the table.. Pure frauds and indeed possibly compromised. Btw, the threats of violence being touted should not be taken seriously I.e most Irish republicans wouldn&#039;t jeopardise the mess Westminster has made by their own hand. Only compromised groups would give London a get out gift. P.s unionist violence was always controlled by Whitehall I.e if they begin violence you know who is pulling the strings.]]></description>
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<p>I am afraid the Irish nationalist parties have the same mentality as Plaid I.e they wanna stop brexit even though I believe(as do others) that brexit offers a great chance of irish unification. I voted brexit in the small hope that this indeed would create turmoil for the UK.  The status quoers in Ireland pay lip service to Irish unity allthewhile bricking it if it indeed comes on the table.. Pure frauds and indeed possibly compromised. Btw, the threats of violence being touted should not be taken seriously I.e most Irish republicans wouldn&#8217;t jeopardise the mess Westminster has made by their own hand. Only compromised groups would give London a get out gift. P.s unionist violence was always controlled by Whitehall I.e if they begin violence you know who is pulling the strings.</p>
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