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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1617</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1616&quot;&gt;Galés Patagónico (@gwynn10)&lt;/a&gt;.

What it says on the &#039;Welsh&#039; Government website is &quot;if you want to submit evidence&quot; then the deadline in January 17th.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1616">Galés Patagónico (@gwynn10)</a>.</p>
<p>What it says on the &#8216;Welsh&#8217; Government website is &#8220;if you want to submit evidence&#8221; then the deadline in January 17th.</p>
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		By: Galés Patagónico (@gwynn10)		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Galés Patagónico (@gwynn10)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The consultation period ends on January 17th.&quot; I did not awaken already, is this the period for adding comments, or something else?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The consultation period ends on January 17th.&#8221; I did not awaken already, is this the period for adding comments, or something else?</p>
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		By: Red ²		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1614</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red ²]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1613&quot;&gt;gogarth&lt;/a&gt;.

Government security services can track every adult who has a mobile phone and/or a bank/credit card but heaven forbid anyone keeping tabs on people at risk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1613">gogarth</a>.</p>
<p>Government security services can track every adult who has a mobile phone and/or a bank/credit card but heaven forbid anyone keeping tabs on people at risk.</p>
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		By: gogarth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gogarth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1610&quot;&gt;Red ²&lt;/a&gt;.

I can&#039;t comment on social care generally but working with colleagues from social care I do not think that a departments resources is taken into account. Many colleagues start work early, finish late and come into work on their days off to keep up with statutory requirements for providing case work this is quite straight forward evidence that services are struggling to cope. This is the case with health services too.

Demographic information is recorded in referral information but is not recorded on data bases. There appears to no will to collect it at a service level and politically I would have thought this would be highly contentious and would not be encouraged by Cardiff either. Looking too closely at the demographic change  in Wales and the utilisation of resources used in health and other services would be politically very uncomfortable  for all political parties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1610">Red ²</a>.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t comment on social care generally but working with colleagues from social care I do not think that a departments resources is taken into account. Many colleagues start work early, finish late and come into work on their days off to keep up with statutory requirements for providing case work this is quite straight forward evidence that services are struggling to cope. This is the case with health services too.</p>
<p>Demographic information is recorded in referral information but is not recorded on data bases. There appears to no will to collect it at a service level and politically I would have thought this would be highly contentious and would not be encouraged by Cardiff either. Looking too closely at the demographic change  in Wales and the utilisation of resources used in health and other services would be politically very uncomfortable  for all political parties.</p>
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		By: Red ²		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1612</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red ²]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1611&quot;&gt;Anonentity&lt;/a&gt;.

A quick look at DirectGov forms on the internet confirms that they do ask for nationality. You are right ethnic origin is different from nationality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1611">Anonentity</a>.</p>
<p>A quick look at DirectGov forms on the internet confirms that they do ask for nationality. You are right ethnic origin is different from nationality.</p>
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		By: Anonentity		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonentity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Red - Do government forms ask for nationality?  Maybe you mean ethnic origin which is always asked for and is quite a different thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red &#8211; Do government forms ask for nationality?  Maybe you mean ethnic origin which is always asked for and is quite a different thing.</p>
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		By: Red ²		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1610</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red ²]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1609&quot;&gt;gogarth&lt;/a&gt;.

Surely the intake of vulnerable adults from another region should depend on the availability of social services staff etc., and their ability to cope. If Council services have been given extra resources to deal with a large number of clients from outside of the local boundary it would suggest that there is a deliberate policy. Follow the money and find out. 

Your point about data 12/1/13 7:16pm: 
Most government forms ask for full name, date of birth, place of birth, nationality. 
In the case of social services there will be an entry on the database about which organisation referred the individual. Collating the data is a doddle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1609">gogarth</a>.</p>
<p>Surely the intake of vulnerable adults from another region should depend on the availability of social services staff etc., and their ability to cope. If Council services have been given extra resources to deal with a large number of clients from outside of the local boundary it would suggest that there is a deliberate policy. Follow the money and find out. </p>
<p>Your point about data 12/1/13 7:16pm:<br />
Most government forms ask for full name, date of birth, place of birth, nationality.<br />
In the case of social services there will be an entry on the database about which organisation referred the individual. Collating the data is a doddle.</p>
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		By: gogarth		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1609</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gogarth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It may in part be reciprocal but if it is the ratios would be weighted as Jac stated. Often it seems to be an attempt by the individual to escape from an invalidating home environment and north wales is often viewed as a place that people have been on holiday to and a place to start again. These individuals often have very poor lifestyles with comorbid health problems and are economically inactive and often are being seen by a myriad of different departments and agencies to address their problems. 

It would be interesting to see though if there is any awareness of these apparent trends though at a governmental level to consider the impact upon services, budgets and the wider community culture and welbeing]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may in part be reciprocal but if it is the ratios would be weighted as Jac stated. Often it seems to be an attempt by the individual to escape from an invalidating home environment and north wales is often viewed as a place that people have been on holiday to and a place to start again. These individuals often have very poor lifestyles with comorbid health problems and are economically inactive and often are being seen by a myriad of different departments and agencies to address their problems. </p>
<p>It would be interesting to see though if there is any awareness of these apparent trends though at a governmental level to consider the impact upon services, budgets and the wider community culture and welbeing</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1608</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 22:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1605&quot;&gt;gogarth&lt;/a&gt;.

I know what you mean. It&#039;s not just the criminals and the white trash. There are considerable numbers of vulnerable people being moved in. I see many in Tywyn. A woman who walks up and down the High Street shouting to herself. Others who wander the streets all day. Why come here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1605">gogarth</a>.</p>
<p>I know what you mean. It&#8217;s not just the criminals and the white trash. There are considerable numbers of vulnerable people being moved in. I see many in Tywyn. A woman who walks up and down the High Street shouting to herself. Others who wander the streets all day. Why come here?</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1607</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 22:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1606&quot;&gt;Red ²&lt;/a&gt;.

I doubt it. But even if it is, the population of Greater Manchester alone is 3 million. It&#039;s amazing how many people think that a valid, even clinching, argument. How can anything be reciprocal or fair between a country of 3 million and another of 53 million, especially when the former is run as a colony of the latter by a collaborationist regime, in power due to the stupidity of the most deracinated and ill-educated elements of the nation?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/the-lebensraum-strategy-and-the-rented-sector/#comment-1606">Red ²</a>.</p>
<p>I doubt it. But even if it is, the population of Greater Manchester alone is 3 million. It&#8217;s amazing how many people think that a valid, even clinching, argument. How can anything be reciprocal or fair between a country of 3 million and another of 53 million, especially when the former is run as a colony of the latter by a collaborationist regime, in power due to the stupidity of the most deracinated and ill-educated elements of the nation?</p>
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