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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2017 11:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-the-farce-continues/#comment-25295&quot;&gt;mamgusuz@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;.

It seems that Labour in Swansea, Carmarthenshire, and NPT, is in one hell of a mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-the-farce-continues/#comment-25295">mamgusuz@gmail.com</a>.</p>
<p>It seems that Labour in Swansea, Carmarthenshire, and NPT, is in one hell of a mess.</p>
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		By: mamgusuz@gmail.com		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2017 02:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And another .]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2016 20:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul Lloyd]]></description>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2016 17:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-the-farce-continues/#comment-22919&quot;&gt;a Friend&lt;/a&gt;.

Of whom do you speak?]]></description>
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<p>Of whom do you speak?</p>
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		By: a Friend		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2016 16:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ok but why  is this councillor who clams for travel but has a over 60s bus pass and lives in a ward with a high bus route to the civic centre never exposed on this web page]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok but why  is this councillor who clams for travel but has a over 60s bus pass and lives in a ward with a high bus route to the civic centre never exposed on this web page</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-the-farce-continues/#comment-22905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2016 19:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-the-farce-continues/#comment-22904&quot;&gt;a Friend&lt;/a&gt;.

Paul Lloyd is not related to the Lloyd brothers and that family.]]></description>
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<p>Paul Lloyd is not related to the Lloyd brothers and that family.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2016 18:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[but there is no Mention of Paul Loyd from the Swansea East area of the Labour Party]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but there is no Mention of Paul Loyd from the Swansea East area of the Labour Party</p>
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		By: Big Gee		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-the-farce-continues/#comment-22838</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 11:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-the-farce-continues/#comment-22831&quot;&gt;Stan&lt;/a&gt;.

Very good Stan. For a self styled &#039;amateur psychology&#039; student, you&#039;ve done exceptionally well I think. For what it&#039;s worth, I personally think you&#039;re probably &#039;bang on the money&#039;.]]></description>
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<p>Very good Stan. For a self styled &#8216;amateur psychology&#8217; student, you&#8217;ve done exceptionally well I think. For what it&#8217;s worth, I personally think you&#8217;re probably &#8216;bang on the money&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Andy Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 01:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-the-farce-continues/#comment-22825&quot;&gt;Big Gee&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your reply Big Gee.  There are reasons why our mineral resources industries have closed. In some cases exhaustion of viable resources but mainly because they can be found more abundantly and therefore be more cheaply recovered in other parts of the world.  Wind energy?  Well we&#039;ve seen that without subsidy the onshore wind energy sector is dead. We have a beautiful country but we destroy it with worthless windfarms which make fat cats and their sycophants rich whilst &#039;milking&#039; us consumers. Removing the subsidy for wind was about the only thing the Tories did right.

A hundred years ago when &#039;coal was king&#039; we may have been able to do it but not now.
How would we fund all the non jobs of today?]]></description>
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<p>Thank you for your reply Big Gee.  There are reasons why our mineral resources industries have closed. In some cases exhaustion of viable resources but mainly because they can be found more abundantly and therefore be more cheaply recovered in other parts of the world.  Wind energy?  Well we&#8217;ve seen that without subsidy the onshore wind energy sector is dead. We have a beautiful country but we destroy it with worthless windfarms which make fat cats and their sycophants rich whilst &#8216;milking&#8217; us consumers. Removing the subsidy for wind was about the only thing the Tories did right.</p>
<p>A hundred years ago when &#8216;coal was king&#8217; we may have been able to do it but not now.<br />
How would we fund all the non jobs of today?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 21:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/swansea-labour-the-farce-continues/#comment-22830&quot;&gt;Big Gee&lt;/a&gt;.

I think, Big Gee, that the tax evasion issue has been investigated and they have been exonerated - I hate that word, I think better to say they couldn&#039;t prove the case against them though that doesn&#039;t mean there was nothing underhand going on.

With regard to why Boyo wanted the seat in Aberavon, I&#039;m not sure there&#039;s one answer covers it all. His whole life seems to have been about trying to find his own place in the world. He has played a bit part in the lives of both parents, both more successful and famous than him, and has been the partner of one of the most glamorous and talked about female leaders perhaps in the western world. His sister has walked the halls of 10 Downing Street keeping Gordon Brown&#039;s diary or something, then shadowed Ed Miliband as his PA when he was Party leader. He&#039;s held down a few decent posts but seems to have jumped about a lot in recent years. Some would say moving on before the shit hits the fan. That&#039;s my very much amateur psychology view anyway - he&#039;s still growing up, poor boyo.

Going for MP for Aberavon - when you look at the time he actually went for it, he was already based in this country so no move of country. We now know his daughter was in school here as well. Miliband was leader and there was every prospect of him leading either a Labour government or one just holding on anyway because he said he&#039;d reject a formal coalition. So Stephen would have had every chance of rising through the ranks very quickly. His old man had personally backed Ed, famously hugging him when he was elected leader. Remember &quot;we&#039;ve got our Party back&quot;. Sister would have been in No 10 as Ed&#039;s right hand girl. Mam and Dad would be next door to the Commons every day. The Kinnock destiny would have been almost fulfilled. All that would be needed would be for Ed to have an unfortunate accident one day and who knows?]]></description>
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<p>I think, Big Gee, that the tax evasion issue has been investigated and they have been exonerated &#8211; I hate that word, I think better to say they couldn&#8217;t prove the case against them though that doesn&#8217;t mean there was nothing underhand going on.</p>
<p>With regard to why Boyo wanted the seat in Aberavon, I&#8217;m not sure there&#8217;s one answer covers it all. His whole life seems to have been about trying to find his own place in the world. He has played a bit part in the lives of both parents, both more successful and famous than him, and has been the partner of one of the most glamorous and talked about female leaders perhaps in the western world. His sister has walked the halls of 10 Downing Street keeping Gordon Brown&#8217;s diary or something, then shadowed Ed Miliband as his PA when he was Party leader. He&#8217;s held down a few decent posts but seems to have jumped about a lot in recent years. Some would say moving on before the shit hits the fan. That&#8217;s my very much amateur psychology view anyway &#8211; he&#8217;s still growing up, poor boyo.</p>
<p>Going for MP for Aberavon &#8211; when you look at the time he actually went for it, he was already based in this country so no move of country. We now know his daughter was in school here as well. Miliband was leader and there was every prospect of him leading either a Labour government or one just holding on anyway because he said he&#8217;d reject a formal coalition. So Stephen would have had every chance of rising through the ranks very quickly. His old man had personally backed Ed, famously hugging him when he was elected leader. Remember &#8220;we&#8217;ve got our Party back&#8221;. Sister would have been in No 10 as Ed&#8217;s right hand girl. Mam and Dad would be next door to the Commons every day. The Kinnock destiny would have been almost fulfilled. All that would be needed would be for Ed to have an unfortunate accident one day and who knows?</p>
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