Comments on: Swansea Labour Party 8: Cracks Appearing?

By: Jac

Jac — Mon, 13 May 2013 18:32:23 +0000

He seems to fit the bill perfectly, Keith: professional politician; drifter; member of Co-operative Party; interest in GLBT issues; supporter of Amnesty; and of course, member of the C of E. Nice to know they aren’t all in Swansea.

But if I was Welsh Labour I’d be worried by these people. To who or to what are they really committed? Are they entryists, using the Labour Party to pursue other agendas? But as I’m not Welsh Labour, I wish them well and hope they cause maximum damage within the Labour Party.

By: Keith Parry

Keith Parry — Mon, 13 May 2013 15:17:13 +0000

There is an election for the leadership of Labour on Cardiff Council. One of your pet character types Phil Hawkins is challenging Heather Joyce, a clueless grandmother, who is a front for the real power in the city Russel Goodway. This Hawkins is an ex Deputy Leader of Cochester Council and a social services academic.His CV states he has been a school guvenor in the Scottish highl;ands in recent years. He is a member of Labour Grassroutes a leftist organisation trying to owst New Labour Blairites.. A coup d’etate is going on in this city!

By: Cherry Hinton

Cherry Hinton — Thu, 09 May 2013 17:18:34 +0000

In reply to leigh richards. Pleased that the Welsh Inspector allowed the Appeal for the 4 pitched site in Birchgrove for Romani gypsies to go ahead - small family sites for travellers have to be the answer

By: @ A Turk

@ A Turk — Tue, 07 May 2013 16:42:35 +0000

@ leigh richards
I hope that the local branch of the Labour Party are aware of what was contained in the letter of complaint sent by the CRE (Wales) and that there is no repetition.
All local Councils are having a difficult time in Wales due to extreme cutbacks in the amount of money made available to them from the Treasury. It’s a pity that the previous LibDem administration in Swansea (2004 – 2012) didn’t squander so much on vanity projects and make seriously expensive and damaging errors.
Carry on accepting what your mind tells you about me.
Hwyl am y tro.

By: leigh richards

leigh richards — Tue, 07 May 2013 14:04:43 +0000

for goodness sakes ‘A Turk’ calm down. Nowhere have i accused you of being a racist. I merely pointed out that on occassions anti-traveller/gypsy protests have carried racist undertones…as evidenced by the leaflet distributed in swansea which was condemned by the commssion for racial equality. And im fully prepared to accept youre just an ordinary member of the local labour party and not one of its councillor’s, AMs, MPs or political advisors.

By: @ A Turk

@ A Turk — Tue, 07 May 2013 08:25:25 +0000

@ leigh Richards
Creating a false image of me as a racist who hides is known as “Strawman Technique”.
I do not excuse the printing and distribution of the leaflet by individuals at a Labour Party branch but, on the other hand, I do not tar everyone with the same brush in the way that you do.
If you look at the details you will notice that the objection was to the continued presence of an illegal site.
You will notice that Swansea Council was under the administration of a LibDem/Ind/Plaid coalition and that during the eviction proceedings at a Court it was revealed a LibDem cabinet member had given the family who were squatting on the Park n Ride permission to stay. The Councillor didn’t tell anyone about the arrangement that he had made.

Following the local elections last year, Labour has taken control and responsibility of Swansea Council and I would think that it is in your interest to concentrate of how the Cabinet and Committees handle their statutory duties.

Harping on about a single leaflet produced by a Labour branch in the area where a travelling family had decided to occupy a Council Car Park will not help in the slightest.
I use a pseudonym because I’d rather people take note and think about what I post than who I am. However, I can state that I’m not a Councillor, AM, MP or political advisor.

By: leigh richards

leigh richards — Mon, 06 May 2013 22:21:32 +0000

Well at least Save Penrhos has a real and identifiable profile!

By: leigh richards

leigh richards — Mon, 06 May 2013 21:55:07 +0000

In reply to @ A Turk. i draw the comparison to illustrate the racism that can lay behind the motives of those objecting to travellers sites, with gypsies and irish travellers constituting distinct ethnic groups.under the law of course. I also cant help but notice that your another poster who appears to have an antagonistic stance towards those of us supportive of traveller and gypsy rights in swansea who doesnt have an identifiable profile. Why is that those contributors to this discussion who have tried to excuse swansea labour's appalling track record on travellers in swansea feel the need to hide?

By: @ A Turk

@ A Turk — Mon, 06 May 2013 20:56:09 +0000

In reply to leigh richards. @leigh richards Local councils in Wales are not under a statutory obligation to provide land for the exclusive occupation of jews or muslims or any other religious group so I fail to understand what why you have chosen to draw a comparison.

By: Greta

Greta — Mon, 06 May 2013 12:13:30 +0000

From a pressure group opposed to a “gated Holiday Park and Leisure Complex.”
The posting of May 5, 2013 at 8:29 pm must have been approved by the Officials of “Save Penrhos” because it has the official seal on the link.
And there were people thinking that Save Penrhos was a non political group that doesn’t resort to party politics.

Rule 3 on the Save Penrhos website: –
“DO NOT state things as fact unless they definitely are. Use caveats such as ‘probably’, ‘possibly’ ‘perhaps’ ‘widely believed’ ‘accepted in some areas’. If you state something as fact and it isn’t you leave yourself open to public attack, your opposition will have a field day and your causes credibility will take a hammering.”
http://www.savepenrhos.co.uk/page5.php