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		By: dafis		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19922</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 07:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[and yet another sucking creep makes the news - Lord Pain of Aberdulais arise !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yet another sucking creep makes the news &#8211; Lord Pain of Aberdulais arise !</p>
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		By: dafis		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19895</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What really sucks is the way this creep and others like him go out of their way to appear positively disposed to ethnic groups that have migrated here from the Commonwealth countries, the old empire, and lately from Eastern Europe, but get a fit of the jitters if anyone mentions the native Welsh. Similarly bring a foreign businessman into the city and they quickly prostrate themselves or bend over into any position they deem appropriate to ensure goodwill. Capital city, no chance, more like spoilt brat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really sucks is the way this creep and others like him go out of their way to appear positively disposed to ethnic groups that have migrated here from the Commonwealth countries, the old empire, and lately from Eastern Europe, but get a fit of the jitters if anyone mentions the native Welsh. Similarly bring a foreign businessman into the city and they quickly prostrate themselves or bend over into any position they deem appropriate to ensure goodwill. Capital city, no chance, more like spoilt brat.</p>
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		By: gwilymabioan		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19894</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19892&quot;&gt;dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

To quote a Cockney saying &quot;where it ain&#039;t you can&#039;t put it&quot;. Ignorance coupled to an attitude due to a chip on the shoulder, brought about by feelings of inadequacy (which is highlighted amongst many &#039;Welsh&#039; monoglots who display the same symptoms - due to their linguistic inferiority) often hatches this type of reaction. By trying to rejig the face of Wales by removing or attacking the Welsh language and Welsh culture, makes for a more level playing field where they feel more comfortable and less inferior in their limited little minds,.

In my experience, having lived in Caerdydd for three years during my college days in the early seventies, I came to the conclusion then. and still hold the view now, that Caerdydd should never have been made the capital. Appart from it&#039;s geographic location and it&#039;s demographic makeup it was wholly unsuitable. Cardiff people on the whole I found to be a strange bunch. They do not consider themselves to be either Welsh or English, but rather &#039;Cardiffians&#039;. A group of people who are totally oblivious of anything cultural, linguistic or otherwise that has to do with the country where their city is located.

Phil Bale is in the same mould as Russell Goodway, and we all remember his antics when we first got devolution, and the way he was as awkward as possible in his dealings with the Welsh Assemby - as it was then called. 

Bale &#038; Co.&#039;s big problem is exasperated by the No. of native Welsh people who have been sucked into the capital in recent years through employment, and the &#039;Cardiffians&#039; fear that they are being colonised by &quot;Welshies&quot;. In a way it makes me smile as I see them wriggling on a hook and displaying outbursts like that - a sure sign that there&#039;s a lot of suffering going on beneath the surface - good - may it long continue until they hang themselves! There&#039;s nothing more satisfying than watching a prick make a bigger prick of himself with statements like that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19892">dafis</a>.</p>
<p>To quote a Cockney saying &#8220;where it ain&#8217;t you can&#8217;t put it&#8221;. Ignorance coupled to an attitude due to a chip on the shoulder, brought about by feelings of inadequacy (which is highlighted amongst many &#8216;Welsh&#8217; monoglots who display the same symptoms &#8211; due to their linguistic inferiority) often hatches this type of reaction. By trying to rejig the face of Wales by removing or attacking the Welsh language and Welsh culture, makes for a more level playing field where they feel more comfortable and less inferior in their limited little minds,.</p>
<p>In my experience, having lived in Caerdydd for three years during my college days in the early seventies, I came to the conclusion then. and still hold the view now, that Caerdydd should never have been made the capital. Appart from it&#8217;s geographic location and it&#8217;s demographic makeup it was wholly unsuitable. Cardiff people on the whole I found to be a strange bunch. They do not consider themselves to be either Welsh or English, but rather &#8216;Cardiffians&#8217;. A group of people who are totally oblivious of anything cultural, linguistic or otherwise that has to do with the country where their city is located.</p>
<p>Phil Bale is in the same mould as Russell Goodway, and we all remember his antics when we first got devolution, and the way he was as awkward as possible in his dealings with the Welsh Assemby &#8211; as it was then called. </p>
<p>Bale &amp; Co.&#8217;s big problem is exasperated by the No. of native Welsh people who have been sucked into the capital in recent years through employment, and the &#8216;Cardiffians&#8217; fear that they are being colonised by &#8220;Welshies&#8221;. In a way it makes me smile as I see them wriggling on a hook and displaying outbursts like that &#8211; a sure sign that there&#8217;s a lot of suffering going on beneath the surface &#8211; good &#8211; may it long continue until they hang themselves! There&#8217;s nothing more satisfying than watching a prick make a bigger prick of himself with statements like that.</p>
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		By: dafis		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19892</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To digress - More evidence of how our capital city&#039;s leadership thinks - what a first class tosser ! 

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-language-not-part-cardiffs-9920236
Welsh language is not a part of Cardiff&#039;s &#039;social fabric&#039;, says council leader Phil Bale - Wales Online

If that city doesn&#039;t take responsibility for what it has to do to be a proper capital then the role should be taken from it. My preferred solution would be to take people like Bale out and publicly flog the bastard for his inane comments. He should have no role in the running of the Welsh capital.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To digress &#8211; More evidence of how our capital city&#8217;s leadership thinks &#8211; what a first class tosser ! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-language-not-part-cardiffs-9920236" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-language-not-part-cardiffs-9920236</a><br />
Welsh language is not a part of Cardiff&#8217;s &#8216;social fabric&#8217;, says council leader Phil Bale &#8211; Wales Online</p>
<p>If that city doesn&#8217;t take responsibility for what it has to do to be a proper capital then the role should be taken from it. My preferred solution would be to take people like Bale out and publicly flog the bastard for his inane comments. He should have no role in the running of the Welsh capital.</p>
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		By: Jobovitch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2015 07:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19841&quot;&gt;Carnabwth&lt;/a&gt;.

That damned leak. Dŵr Cymru said that they&#039;d fixed it in February but it&#039;s still leaking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19841">Carnabwth</a>.</p>
<p>That damned leak. Dŵr Cymru said that they&#8217;d fixed it in February but it&#8217;s still leaking.</p>
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		By: Carnabwth		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19841</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ifan has weighed rather heavily on Benedict Anderson&#039;s work....&#039;Imagined Communities&#039;.  It&#039;s worth a read.  It&#039;s years since I read it and I boeth agreed and disagreed with Anderson.  He also talks of &#039;Symbolic resources&#039; ie things which are symbols for these &#039;imagined communities&#039; or &#039;nations&#039; eg in our case, the Welsh flag and the leak and possibly our national teams.  Of course, they sometimes intersect/conflict with the British angle eg the Union flag or Team GB.  If I remember correctly, he doesn&#039;t deal adequately with state-less nations such as us and the Scots and Catalans etc.  Regarding the reading of newspapers.....his work is now possibly dated since the web wasn&#039;t around when it was produced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ifan has weighed rather heavily on Benedict Anderson&#8217;s work&#8230;.&#8217;Imagined Communities&#8217;.  It&#8217;s worth a read.  It&#8217;s years since I read it and I boeth agreed and disagreed with Anderson.  He also talks of &#8216;Symbolic resources&#8217; ie things which are symbols for these &#8216;imagined communities&#8217; or &#8216;nations&#8217; eg in our case, the Welsh flag and the leak and possibly our national teams.  Of course, they sometimes intersect/conflict with the British angle eg the Union flag or Team GB.  If I remember correctly, he doesn&#8217;t deal adequately with state-less nations such as us and the Scots and Catalans etc.  Regarding the reading of newspapers&#8230;..his work is now possibly dated since the web wasn&#8217;t around when it was produced.</p>
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		By: Carnabwth		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19837</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19817&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

He said something similar before the May election.........how well the Labour party was doing like. :-))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19817">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>He said something similar before the May election&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;how well the Labour party was doing like. :-))</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19828&quot;&gt;Keith Parry.&lt;/a&gt;.

Keith, we are already divided.

I shall never re-join Plaid Cymru.

There are two major obstacles to your ambitions; one is the Labour Party, the other is Plaid Cymru. Both are &lt;em&gt;faux&lt;/em&gt; nationalist parties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19828">Keith Parry.</a>.</p>
<p>Keith, we are already divided.</p>
<p>I shall never re-join Plaid Cymru.</p>
<p>There are two major obstacles to your ambitions; one is the Labour Party, the other is Plaid Cymru. Both are <em>faux</em> nationalist parties.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19830&quot;&gt;dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

I have got to the stage where I no longer care what Plaid Cymru says. Their record over 90 years says it all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19830">dafis</a>.</p>
<p>I have got to the stage where I no longer care what Plaid Cymru says. Their record over 90 years says it all.</p>
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		By: dafis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19828&quot;&gt;Keith Parry.&lt;/a&gt;.

plaid say they are going to build up the economy ? you must be joking ! With few noteable exceptions the visible leadership and spokespersons are all experts at &quot;sharing the cake&quot;, but not one of them has uttered a clear idea of how to bake one ! And as for independence you will be waiting for ever for them to dump the begging bowl mentality, that dependency culture that relies on being funded for ever by London and Brussels. Even their leading economists are preoccupied with reshaping Barnett. 

When those Euro crooks decide to reduce handouts cos they are too busy absorbing other down at heel countries and refugees from all parts of the globe, Wales will really feel the pinch and no good Ms Evans and Ms Wood whineing about fair shares then. And, given that big promises were made to the Scots, someone i.e. Wales and the outer English regions will have their shares cut.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/regional-parties-for-the-national-good/#comment-19828">Keith Parry.</a>.</p>
<p>plaid say they are going to build up the economy ? you must be joking ! With few noteable exceptions the visible leadership and spokespersons are all experts at &#8220;sharing the cake&#8221;, but not one of them has uttered a clear idea of how to bake one ! And as for independence you will be waiting for ever for them to dump the begging bowl mentality, that dependency culture that relies on being funded for ever by London and Brussels. Even their leading economists are preoccupied with reshaping Barnett. </p>
<p>When those Euro crooks decide to reduce handouts cos they are too busy absorbing other down at heel countries and refugees from all parts of the globe, Wales will really feel the pinch and no good Ms Evans and Ms Wood whineing about fair shares then. And, given that big promises were made to the Scots, someone i.e. Wales and the outer English regions will have their shares cut.</p>
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