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		By: Red Flag		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red Flag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 07:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35784&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;dropped the concept of a second Brexit referendum, in favour of cancellation. This means there was only one candidate, Ben Lake, that could hoover up both leavers and remainers.&lt;/i&gt;

I mix in Leave circles in a Leave area in a constituency that voted Leave,  that was a Labour seat, was a major Plaid target and has gone Tory.

I have never ever met a Leave voter that supports a second referendum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35784">Brychan</a>.</p>
<p><i>dropped the concept of a second Brexit referendum, in favour of cancellation. This means there was only one candidate, Ben Lake, that could hoover up both leavers and remainers.</i></p>
<p>I mix in Leave circles in a Leave area in a constituency that voted Leave,  that was a Labour seat, was a major Plaid target and has gone Tory.</p>
<p>I have never ever met a Leave voter that supports a second referendum.</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dafis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 20:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35814&quot;&gt;Roger Jones&lt;/a&gt;.

Not 5 years, they have to make a big impact at Cynulliad elections in 2021or they will be consigned to history&#039;s trash can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35814">Roger Jones</a>.</p>
<p>Not 5 years, they have to make a big impact at Cynulliad elections in 2021or they will be consigned to history&#8217;s trash can.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35817</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 18:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35816&quot;&gt;Jonesy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, you&#039;re right. There was Wolfe Tone in the Rising of 1798, Robert Emmet in 1803, both United Irishmen; and then Charles Stewart Parnell, who led the Irish Parliamentary Party towards the end of the 18th century. These and many more who are not so well remembered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35816">Jonesy</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right. There was Wolfe Tone in the Rising of 1798, Robert Emmet in 1803, both United Irishmen; and then Charles Stewart Parnell, who led the Irish Parliamentary Party towards the end of the 18th century. These and many more who are not so well remembered.</p>
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		By: Jonesy		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonesy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 17:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35799&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Remember that many of the Irish Independence movement were Protestant, surprisngly enough]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35799">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>Remember that many of the Irish Independence movement were Protestant, surprisngly enough</p>
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		By: Roger Jones		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 16:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Carmarthenshire is in a position whereby all levels of elected members are from Plaid

MP  / Am and Council in the control of Plaid members

The recent history of Carmarthenshire is a troubled one but has not been helped recently with a weak and ineffective group of plaid councillors

The recent debacle concerning the Swansea City deal - the council are now seen as a pariah after its disastrous management of the initiative by the plaid group  / the recent police raids in connection with Swansea University  all under Plaid&#039;s watch does not give confidence of a wider Wales control

I agree with previous comments - Plaid needs to come away from the language issue and become more a economy / independence / self governing party like the SNP - although it now looks likely with Brexit being  done any control of regeneration funds will be in the hands of the Tories at least for the next 5 years

Adam Price was very visible during the election campaign but has gone quiet since the results - they still did well to hold the 4 seats with the Tories gaining votes being second to Plaid in Carmarthen East and Dinefwr but will need to do much better to get more buy-in from other areas

5 years to work on this]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carmarthenshire is in a position whereby all levels of elected members are from Plaid</p>
<p>MP  / Am and Council in the control of Plaid members</p>
<p>The recent history of Carmarthenshire is a troubled one but has not been helped recently with a weak and ineffective group of plaid councillors</p>
<p>The recent debacle concerning the Swansea City deal &#8211; the council are now seen as a pariah after its disastrous management of the initiative by the plaid group  / the recent police raids in connection with Swansea University  all under Plaid&#8217;s watch does not give confidence of a wider Wales control</p>
<p>I agree with previous comments &#8211; Plaid needs to come away from the language issue and become more a economy / independence / self governing party like the SNP &#8211; although it now looks likely with Brexit being  done any control of regeneration funds will be in the hands of the Tories at least for the next 5 years</p>
<p>Adam Price was very visible during the election campaign but has gone quiet since the results &#8211; they still did well to hold the 4 seats with the Tories gaining votes being second to Plaid in Carmarthen East and Dinefwr but will need to do much better to get more buy-in from other areas</p>
<p>5 years to work on this</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35813</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 15:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35812&quot;&gt;Mel Morgan&lt;/a&gt;.

Only the leaders were shot in 1916. Though many thousands were arrested and interned. The Rising was not universally popular, I agree, but the British guaranteed its success by executing the leaders. Connolly being shot in a chair turned many into ardent Republicans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35812">Mel Morgan</a>.</p>
<p>Only the leaders were shot in 1916. Though many thousands were arrested and interned. The Rising was not universally popular, I agree, but the British guaranteed its success by executing the leaders. Connolly being shot in a chair turned many into ardent Republicans.</p>
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		By: Mel Morgan		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mel Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 15:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35798&quot;&gt;Mel Morgan&lt;/a&gt;.

The vast majority of Irish nationalists opposed the Easter Rising. So the British Establishment executed, not only the leaders, but their relatives, and people in subordinate positions. They interned, not only participants, but anybody who had offended someone important: that was how a village in Meirion became a Celtic Guantanamo. Finally, they tried to introduce conscription in Ireland: the wording of the anti-conscription manifesto closely echoed that of the Ulster Covenant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35798">Mel Morgan</a>.</p>
<p>The vast majority of Irish nationalists opposed the Easter Rising. So the British Establishment executed, not only the leaders, but their relatives, and people in subordinate positions. They interned, not only participants, but anybody who had offended someone important: that was how a village in Meirion became a Celtic Guantanamo. Finally, they tried to introduce conscription in Ireland: the wording of the anti-conscription manifesto closely echoed that of the Ulster Covenant.</p>
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		By: Mel Morgan		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35808</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mel Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 11:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35798&quot;&gt;Mel Morgan&lt;/a&gt;.

During the second half of the 1840s, the potato crop failed across Northern Europe. Pomerania and Silesia were afflicted quite as badly as Connacht and Munster. The King of Prussia, however, took appropriate steps to relieve the penury: he did not permit his Polish subjects to die in their hundreds of thousands. We all know what happened in Ireland.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35798">Mel Morgan</a>.</p>
<p>During the second half of the 1840s, the potato crop failed across Northern Europe. Pomerania and Silesia were afflicted quite as badly as Connacht and Munster. The King of Prussia, however, took appropriate steps to relieve the penury: he did not permit his Polish subjects to die in their hundreds of thousands. We all know what happened in Ireland.</p>
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		By: Mel Morgan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mel Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 10:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35801&quot;&gt;Mel Morgan&lt;/a&gt;.

There was, of course, a long tradition amongst the British Establishment and their acolytes of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in Ireland. Every major body in the country, apart from the Orange Order, accepted the Act of Union, on the understanding that Catholic Emancipation would follow. George III had one of his funny turns, and Emancipation was postponed for a generation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35801">Mel Morgan</a>.</p>
<p>There was, of course, a long tradition amongst the British Establishment and their acolytes of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in Ireland. Every major body in the country, apart from the Orange Order, accepted the Act of Union, on the understanding that Catholic Emancipation would follow. George III had one of his funny turns, and Emancipation was postponed for a generation.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 10:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35801&quot;&gt;Mel Morgan&lt;/a&gt;.

I never said it wasn&#039;t complicated; there&#039;s always the feeling that the monarch is above it all and guiltless of the people&#039;s suffering. Just look at Russia and the 1905 Revolution.

You seem to neglect the fact that many of the Irish Volunteers joined the British Army for military training and access to weapons. This is another global phenomenon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/plaid-cymru-mass-resignations/#comment-35801">Mel Morgan</a>.</p>
<p>I never said it wasn&#8217;t complicated; there&#8217;s always the feeling that the monarch is above it all and guiltless of the people&#8217;s suffering. Just look at Russia and the 1905 Revolution.</p>
<p>You seem to neglect the fact that many of the Irish Volunteers joined the British Army for military training and access to weapons. This is another global phenomenon.</p>
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