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		By: Jac o' the North		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1120</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac o' the North]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2013 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This comment came by e-mail from Dewi Prysor as he preferred not to use Disqus. &quot;Just outside Tenby, on the small road towards Monorbier (if I remember 
correctly), you will come to a sharp corner upon which is an entrance to a 
substantial caravan park. At the entrance there are three flagpoles with three 
large flags flying. Two of the flags are Union Jacks and the one in the middle 
is this Pembrokeshire flag. The statement is obvious: &#039;This is not Wales. This 
is Great Britain (Greater England)&#039;.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment came by e-mail from Dewi Prysor as he preferred not to use Disqus. &#8220;Just outside Tenby, on the small road towards Monorbier (if I remember<br />
correctly), you will come to a sharp corner upon which is an entrance to a<br />
substantial caravan park. At the entrance there are three flagpoles with three<br />
large flags flying. Two of the flags are Union Jacks and the one in the middle<br />
is this Pembrokeshire flag. The statement is obvious: &#8216;This is not Wales. This<br />
is Great Britain (Greater England)&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
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		By: nonny		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1119</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nonny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1118&quot;&gt;Jac o&#039; the North&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep the canoeists are a bunch of vandals, happily disturbing spawning beds.  Anti-nature scumbags]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1118">Jac o&#8217; the North</a>.</p>
<p>Yep the canoeists are a bunch of vandals, happily disturbing spawning beds.  Anti-nature scumbags</p>
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		By: Jac o' the North		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1118</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac o' the North]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1117&quot;&gt;Glen&lt;/a&gt;.

They seem to regard themselves as martyrs, for something or other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1117">Glen</a>.</p>
<p>They seem to regard themselves as martyrs, for something or other.</p>
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		By: Glen		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1117</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1115&quot;&gt;Jac o&#039; the North&lt;/a&gt;.

The photo was lifted from a canoeing message board a few years ago.

 The sign was erected by a community council in the upper Conwy valley as visiting groups of unauthorized canoeists were regularly disturbing services in a nearby chapel with their rowdy behavior and inconsiderate parking of their vehicles, there was also complaints about them getting dressed/undressed and urinating  in full view of the chapel goers.

The bunch of militants in the photo had come there that day deliberately looking for a  confrontation and to  show their contempt for the locals.

This is the sort of confrontation they were hoping for.

http://www.simondawson.com/phseiont.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1115">Jac o&#8217; the North</a>.</p>
<p>The photo was lifted from a canoeing message board a few years ago.</p>
<p> The sign was erected by a community council in the upper Conwy valley as visiting groups of unauthorized canoeists were regularly disturbing services in a nearby chapel with their rowdy behavior and inconsiderate parking of their vehicles, there was also complaints about them getting dressed/undressed and urinating  in full view of the chapel goers.</p>
<p>The bunch of militants in the photo had come there that day deliberately looking for a  confrontation and to  show their contempt for the locals.</p>
<p>This is the sort of confrontation they were hoping for.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.simondawson.com/phseiont.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.simondawson.com/phseiont.htm</a></p>
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		By: Jac o' the North		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1115</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac o' the North]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1113&quot;&gt;Glen&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d like to do a piece on this issue. It links with other things I&#039;ve written, most recently this, http://jacothenorth.net/blog/fleece-jacket-fascists/ Whose photograph is that you used?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1113">Glen</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to do a piece on this issue. It links with other things I&#8217;ve written, most recently this, <a href="http://jacothenorth.net/blog/fleece-jacket-fascists/" rel="ugc">http://jacothenorth.net/blog/fleece-jacket-fascists/</a> Whose photograph is that you used?</p>
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		By: Glen		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1113</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1108&quot;&gt;Jac o&#039; the North&lt;/a&gt;.

Probably because traditional country pursuits like fishing and shooting are almost entirely practiced by local Welsh people not tourists.

 80% or more of angling rights on Wales rivers are controlled by local angling associations, some more than 100 years old - originally formed by groups of miners and quarry men  to provide game angling (salmon, sewin) for local people at a reasonable cost.  

While rivers in Scotland and much of rural England are largely  in the hands of wealthy individual land owners and game angling is only for the privileged few, in Wales it&#039;s open to anyone at a very reasonable cost.

You&#039;d think the Labour Party would applaud such a &#039;socialist&#039; initiative but as we all know the Labour  Party hates the countryside and the people who live there, particularly if they happen to be Welsh and country sports like angling aren&#039;t seen to be PC.

It comes to something when a body like the very English Countryside Alliance are doing more to protect the interests of Welsh people than Plaid who seem quite happy to see Wales rivers and countryside opened up to all-comers, both Leanne Wood and Rhodri Glyn are big supporters of &#039;open access&#039;.

Many anglers contacted their AM&#039;s about the biased survey and it was actually pulled a day or so early.

  

The WG&#039;s vision for our rivers.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh175/Ogmore_2008/Conwy_zps584fb624.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1108">Jac o&#8217; the North</a>.</p>
<p>Probably because traditional country pursuits like fishing and shooting are almost entirely practiced by local Welsh people not tourists.</p>
<p> 80% or more of angling rights on Wales rivers are controlled by local angling associations, some more than 100 years old &#8211; originally formed by groups of miners and quarry men  to provide game angling (salmon, sewin) for local people at a reasonable cost.  </p>
<p>While rivers in Scotland and much of rural England are largely  in the hands of wealthy individual land owners and game angling is only for the privileged few, in Wales it&#8217;s open to anyone at a very reasonable cost.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think the Labour Party would applaud such a &#8216;socialist&#8217; initiative but as we all know the Labour  Party hates the countryside and the people who live there, particularly if they happen to be Welsh and country sports like angling aren&#8217;t seen to be PC.</p>
<p>It comes to something when a body like the very English Countryside Alliance are doing more to protect the interests of Welsh people than Plaid who seem quite happy to see Wales rivers and countryside opened up to all-comers, both Leanne Wood and Rhodri Glyn are big supporters of &#8216;open access&#8217;.</p>
<p>Many anglers contacted their AM&#8217;s about the biased survey and it was actually pulled a day or so early.</p>
<p>The WG&#8217;s vision for our rivers.<br />
<a href="http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh175/Ogmore_2008/Conwy_zps584fb624.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh175/Ogmore_2008/Conwy_zps584fb624.jpg</a></p>
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		By: Jac o' the North		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1108</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac o' the North]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1107&quot;&gt;Glen&lt;/a&gt;.

Has anyone asked the &#039;Welsh&#039; Government why the questionnaire does not cover anglers. And why it&#039;s so keen to push &#039;adventure sports&#039;, with their appalling record for not employing locals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1107">Glen</a>.</p>
<p>Has anyone asked the &#8216;Welsh&#8217; Government why the questionnaire does not cover anglers. And why it&#8217;s so keen to push &#8216;adventure sports&#8217;, with their appalling record for not employing locals.</p>
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		By: Glen		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1107</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see our wonderful Welsh Government in the shape of John Griffiths, Minister for Environment and Sustainable Development  is determined to push ahead with plans to open up all of our countryside to &#039;adventure sports&#039; with a particular emphasis on our rivers and streams.

http://www.countryside-alliance.org/ca/campaigns-fishing/outdoor-tourism-survey-ignores-fishing-and-shooting

Some background stuff to this long running saga here.

http://seatrout.proboards.com/thread/1631/canoes-announcement]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see our wonderful Welsh Government in the shape of John Griffiths, Minister for Environment and Sustainable Development  is determined to push ahead with plans to open up all of our countryside to &#8216;adventure sports&#8217; with a particular emphasis on our rivers and streams.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.countryside-alliance.org/ca/campaigns-fishing/outdoor-tourism-survey-ignores-fishing-and-shooting" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.countryside-alliance.org/ca/campaigns-fishing/outdoor-tourism-survey-ignores-fishing-and-shooting</a></p>
<p>Some background stuff to this long running saga here.</p>
<p><a href="http://seatrout.proboards.com/thread/1631/canoes-announcement" rel="nofollow ugc">http://seatrout.proboards.com/thread/1631/canoes-announcement</a></p>
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		By: Glyndwr		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1105</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glyndwr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good work, Jac, making clear the false syllogisms of all the fake Welsh who are always spitting their lies to trick the Welsh about what is the best for a Not English Wales.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work, Jac, making clear the false syllogisms of all the fake Welsh who are always spitting their lies to trick the Welsh about what is the best for a Not English Wales.</p>
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		By: Welsh not British		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/packages-codes-and-interpretations/#comment-1104</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Welsh not British]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another good one is that we need all these wind farms we&#039;re dumped with because of all those nasty fossil fuels we burn in Wales. Of course if we mention that we export much of our energy (I say export, it&#039;s stolen) to England we are branded as racists or NIMBYs!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another good one is that we need all these wind farms we&#8217;re dumped with because of all those nasty fossil fuels we burn in Wales. Of course if we mention that we export much of our energy (I say export, it&#8217;s stolen) to England we are branded as racists or NIMBYs!</p>
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