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		By: Gethin ap Gruffydd		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28887</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gethin ap Gruffydd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28744&quot;&gt;Penddu&lt;/a&gt;.

Welsh Independence no go! Join the discussionWEXIT BLOG http://gruffyddgethin.blogspot.co.uk/
But ps: why not your new party stand in CS seat bye election]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28744">Penddu</a>.</p>
<p>Welsh Independence no go! Join the discussionWEXIT BLOG <a href="http://gruffyddgethin.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://gruffyddgethin.blogspot.co.uk/</a><br />
But ps: why not your new party stand in CS seat bye election</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2017 20:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28782&quot;&gt;mclintergate&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&#039;s your latest e-mail (November 5th) I suppose the point about Scarrott is the only one meriting a response.

Obviously, he&#039;s not going to be invited to the meeting on the 18th, and I can&#039;t understand why you suggest it. As for the effect you ascribe to him, he caused a delay, but the party is going ahead. 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&quot;My middle name is Martin and that is the one I have always used.
 
I am not sure what you mean by invisible. I am hardly a retired rock star.
 
If you give everyone the third degree like this your party will fail before it ever gets started.
 
When you say Wales is in a mess you must accept that the nations politicians were voted in to position by the
electorate.
 
There is room out there for alternative views but like Farage you have to attract publicity.
 
Like it or not the facts are that Wales is not populated by 100% pure bred natives.
 
To change the path of politics requires mass support and having closed meetings is not going to help your cause.
 
You need to get the likes of Scarrott on your side instead of making enemies.
 
He achieved his objective of closing down your public meeting and reducing any prospect of garnering more support
for your plans.
 
If I was in your shoes I would advertise the event and call his bluff.&quot; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28782">mclintergate</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your latest e-mail (November 5th) I suppose the point about Scarrott is the only one meriting a response.</p>
<p>Obviously, he&#8217;s not going to be invited to the meeting on the 18th, and I can&#8217;t understand why you suggest it. As for the effect you ascribe to him, he caused a delay, but the party is going ahead. </p>
<p><em><strong>&#8220;My middle name is Martin and that is the one I have always used.</p>
<p>I am not sure what you mean by invisible. I am hardly a retired rock star.</p>
<p>If you give everyone the third degree like this your party will fail before it ever gets started.</p>
<p>When you say Wales is in a mess you must accept that the nations politicians were voted in to position by the<br />
electorate.</p>
<p>There is room out there for alternative views but like Farage you have to attract publicity.</p>
<p>Like it or not the facts are that Wales is not populated by 100% pure bred natives.</p>
<p>To change the path of politics requires mass support and having closed meetings is not going to help your cause.</p>
<p>You need to get the likes of Scarrott on your side instead of making enemies.</p>
<p>He achieved his objective of closing down your public meeting and reducing any prospect of garnering more support<br />
for your plans.</p>
<p>If I was in your shoes I would advertise the event and call his bluff.&#8221; </strong></em></p>
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		By: mclintergate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mclintergate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2017 19:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28693&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

I replied to your emails Jac. The very least you can do is acknowledge the fact with a decent reply on here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28693">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>I replied to your emails Jac. The very least you can do is acknowledge the fact with a decent reply on here.</p>
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		By: Penddu		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28744</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Penddu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2017 06:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28739&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Jac - yes - I want to see a new party with an unequivocal commitment to Independence. We should view devolution only as a stepping stone on our journey and not settle for it (as Plaid have done) as an end in itself.

Realistically we are not ready for independence today but we could be in only a few years providing we identify what we need to do to fill in the missing gaps in our nation and remove the barriers that have been put in place by the British state. The very first thing we should do is identify every organisation that operates on an englandandwales basis and target their deconstruction. At a formal political level this means working for the establishment of a separate Welsh Jurisdiction, but there are smaller targets such as redefining post code boundaries. But we need to start - the sooner the better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28739">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>Jac &#8211; yes &#8211; I want to see a new party with an unequivocal commitment to Independence. We should view devolution only as a stepping stone on our journey and not settle for it (as Plaid have done) as an end in itself.</p>
<p>Realistically we are not ready for independence today but we could be in only a few years providing we identify what we need to do to fill in the missing gaps in our nation and remove the barriers that have been put in place by the British state. The very first thing we should do is identify every organisation that operates on an englandandwales basis and target their deconstruction. At a formal political level this means working for the establishment of a separate Welsh Jurisdiction, but there are smaller targets such as redefining post code boundaries. But we need to start &#8211; the sooner the better.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2017 19:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28736&quot;&gt;Penddu&lt;/a&gt;.

I am sure that some time after the 18th there will be a new party to join. This comment I suspect answers the question I&#039;ve just e-mailed you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28736">Penddu</a>.</p>
<p>I am sure that some time after the 18th there will be a new party to join. This comment I suspect answers the question I&#8217;ve just e-mailed you.</p>
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		By: Penddu		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28736</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Penddu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I want to attend but can&#039;t. I hope you are successful Jac and I hope I have a new party to join]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to attend but can&#8217;t. I hope you are successful Jac and I hope I have a new party to join</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28694</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28691&quot;&gt;mclintergate&lt;/a&gt;.

Explain your difficulty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28691">mclintergate</a>.</p>
<p>Explain your difficulty.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28692&quot;&gt;mclintergate&lt;/a&gt;.

The Russian Revolution started with a small group of exiles, mass support came later. 

When you asked by e-mail on the 26th if you could to come to the meeting I just asked you to tell me something about yourself. A reasonable precaution seeing as the signature was different to the e-mail address. Why haven&#039;t you replied?

&lt;img src=&quot;http://jacothenorth.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Clintergate.png&quot; alt=&quot;Clintergate&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28692">mclintergate</a>.</p>
<p>The Russian Revolution started with a small group of exiles, mass support came later. </p>
<p>When you asked by e-mail on the 26th if you could to come to the meeting I just asked you to tell me something about yourself. A reasonable precaution seeing as the signature was different to the e-mail address. Why haven&#8217;t you replied?</p>
<p><img src="http://jacothenorth.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Clintergate.png" alt="Clintergate" /></p>
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		By: mclintergate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mclintergate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How can you have a new party that is not easily accessible ? You need to get mass public participation to get the thing of the ground . 
 The Russian revolution would never have got going with the modern internet asking for date of birth,postcode and mothers maiden name. 

This site is a mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you have a new party that is not easily accessible ? You need to get mass public participation to get the thing of the ground .<br />
 The Russian revolution would never have got going with the modern internet asking for date of birth,postcode and mothers maiden name. </p>
<p>This site is a mess.</p>
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		By: mclintergate		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/new-party-fresh-start-4-back-on-track/#comment-28691</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mclintergate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 20:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a very difficult site to react to. Looks like a closed shop?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very difficult site to react to. Looks like a closed shop?</p>
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