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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-it-just-gets-worse/#comment-2909</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-it-just-gets-worse/#comment-2855&quot;&gt;Penddu&lt;/a&gt;.

He&#039;s been proved to be a liar and a hypocrite, but his response has been to now brazenly admit what he hid before the election. The best bet of getting rid of him is the taxman, because I know that much, maybe most, of his dealings in Bugill Ltd were in undeclared cash.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-it-just-gets-worse/#comment-2855">Penddu</a>.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s been proved to be a liar and a hypocrite, but his response has been to now brazenly admit what he hid before the election. The best bet of getting rid of him is the taxman, because I know that much, maybe most, of his dealings in Bugill Ltd were in undeclared cash.</p>
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		By: Penddu		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 00:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent work Jac...a pity this wasn&#039;t available before the election as I don&#039;t know if there is any way to force the little shit to stand down. Unless maybe the taxman takes a closer look at his accounts which could lead to his imprisonment, but even that could take some time!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent work Jac&#8230;a pity this wasn&#8217;t available before the election as I don&#8217;t know if there is any way to force the little shit to stand down. Unless maybe the taxman takes a closer look at his accounts which could lead to his imprisonment, but even that could take some time!</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 18:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-it-just-gets-worse/#comment-2846&quot;&gt;John Oddy&lt;/a&gt;.

No, I can&#039;t accept that, your reasoning is inconsistent. You say you have nothing against the Scots but hope to see Salmond &quot;fall on his fat backside&quot;. The only way that could happen is if independence is an economic failure, in which case it will be all Scots, not just Salmond, that will be on their backsides. To be consistent, as a Unionist, you should want to see Salmond on his backside by the Scots voting No and remaining within this Union that benefits them so much.

But if, as you argue, Salmond isn&#039;t the man to lead an independent Scotland, who do you recommend - Gordon Brown?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-it-just-gets-worse/#comment-2846">John Oddy</a>.</p>
<p>No, I can&#8217;t accept that, your reasoning is inconsistent. You say you have nothing against the Scots but hope to see Salmond &#8220;fall on his fat backside&#8221;. The only way that could happen is if independence is an economic failure, in which case it will be all Scots, not just Salmond, that will be on their backsides. To be consistent, as a Unionist, you should want to see Salmond on his backside by the Scots voting No and remaining within this Union that benefits them so much.</p>
<p>But if, as you argue, Salmond isn&#8217;t the man to lead an independent Scotland, who do you recommend &#8211; Gordon Brown?</p>
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		By: John Oddy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You both missed the point I was trying to make; Scotland have a right to their vote, they should decide their own future, that’s democracy. Salmond, on the other hand, is not, in my opinion, the man to lead them should they decide to split. I do not decry Scotland their vote just because I do not like Salmond.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You both missed the point I was trying to make; Scotland have a right to their vote, they should decide their own future, that’s democracy. Salmond, on the other hand, is not, in my opinion, the man to lead them should they decide to split. I do not decry Scotland their vote just because I do not like Salmond.</p>
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		By: Leigh Richards		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[belated congratulations jac on exposing the hypocrisy and deception of nathan gill and of ukip in wales .....and given the public admissions gill has been forced to make since you revealed your findings it goes without saying that his position is completely untenable and he should stand down as a euro mp.....

as others have observed however it is perhaps telling that it has fallen to a independent blogger like you to bring these disturbing revelations about nathan gill to the welsh public&#039;s attention.....as sadly good old fashioned investigative journalism seeming to be a dying creature in what passes for the &#039;welsh media&#039; - tho saying that i cant help thinking that if a prominent plaid cymru member had been guilty of deceit and evasion on such a wide scale then vast swathes of airtime and print media in wales would have been devoted to covering it......so perhaps the &#039;welsh media&#039; can be &#039;investigative&#039; when the occasion suits it.....or maybe when its british paymasters tell it to be!

thankfully this is welsh a blog.....unlike one i could mention..... that will never be endorsed by the like of welsh secretary david jones. so im sure i speak for a lot of people in wales jac when i say keep up the good work.....because if you dont it looks like no one else in wales is going to!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>belated congratulations jac on exposing the hypocrisy and deception of nathan gill and of ukip in wales &#8230;..and given the public admissions gill has been forced to make since you revealed your findings it goes without saying that his position is completely untenable and he should stand down as a euro mp&#8230;..</p>
<p>as others have observed however it is perhaps telling that it has fallen to a independent blogger like you to bring these disturbing revelations about nathan gill to the welsh public&#8217;s attention&#8230;..as sadly good old fashioned investigative journalism seeming to be a dying creature in what passes for the &#8216;welsh media&#8217; &#8211; tho saying that i cant help thinking that if a prominent plaid cymru member had been guilty of deceit and evasion on such a wide scale then vast swathes of airtime and print media in wales would have been devoted to covering it&#8230;&#8230;so perhaps the &#8216;welsh media&#8217; can be &#8216;investigative&#8217; when the occasion suits it&#8230;..or maybe when its british paymasters tell it to be!</p>
<p>thankfully this is welsh a blog&#8230;..unlike one i could mention&#8230;.. that will never be endorsed by the like of welsh secretary david jones. so im sure i speak for a lot of people in wales jac when i say keep up the good work&#8230;..because if you dont it looks like no one else in wales is going to!</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-it-just-gets-worse/#comment-2839&quot;&gt;daffy2012&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, you didn&#039;t do yourself any favours, John Oddy, with that cheap crack at a very fine politician and a sincere man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-it-just-gets-worse/#comment-2839">daffy2012</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, you didn&#8217;t do yourself any favours, John Oddy, with that cheap crack at a very fine politician and a sincere man.</p>
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		By: daffy2012		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 13:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ha...John Oddy.....to begin with you seem to argue for fairness and almost sound like the voice of reason but it dind&#039;t take you long to show your prejudice regarding Scotland&#039;s future......

&quot;That would be like attacking Scotland for wanting the in/out vote, a vote I hope Salmond wins so we can watch him fall on his fat backside.&quot;

Who are you to say that Salmond will fall and I suppose you mean Scotland too without England?  And if you want to attack Slamond, do so regarding his policies or beliefs rather than the way he looks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha&#8230;John Oddy&#8230;..to begin with you seem to argue for fairness and almost sound like the voice of reason but it dind&#8217;t take you long to show your prejudice regarding Scotland&#8217;s future&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;That would be like attacking Scotland for wanting the in/out vote, a vote I hope Salmond wins so we can watch him fall on his fat backside.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who are you to say that Salmond will fall and I suppose you mean Scotland too without England?  And if you want to attack Slamond, do so regarding his policies or beliefs rather than the way he looks.</p>
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		By: John Oddy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 10:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“To some extent I agree with you that ‘they’re all it’, but the point here is that Ukip has tried to paint itself as a fresh start, unlike the tired old parties that have lied to us for so long. And yet, the truth may be that far from being an improvement Ukip might actually be worse.”


In my opinion UKIP actually stand-up for democracy, the right that we have to have our say, it maybe, God help us, that the UK votes to stay in the EU but they, UKIP, will give us that right to make our own choice. Do not forget they are a relatively new Party and, as such, will have teething problems, by all means attack an individual if you believe he is in the wrong but do not attack the collective for wanting to decide their own future.
That would be like attacking Scotland for wanting the in/out vote, a vote I hope Salmond wins so we can watch him fall on his fat backside. Do not knock the people for wanting change, if things stay the same as they are now then what is there for our children and their children?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“To some extent I agree with you that ‘they’re all it’, but the point here is that Ukip has tried to paint itself as a fresh start, unlike the tired old parties that have lied to us for so long. And yet, the truth may be that far from being an improvement Ukip might actually be worse.”</p>
<p>In my opinion UKIP actually stand-up for democracy, the right that we have to have our say, it maybe, God help us, that the UK votes to stay in the EU but they, UKIP, will give us that right to make our own choice. Do not forget they are a relatively new Party and, as such, will have teething problems, by all means attack an individual if you believe he is in the wrong but do not attack the collective for wanting to decide their own future.<br />
That would be like attacking Scotland for wanting the in/out vote, a vote I hope Salmond wins so we can watch him fall on his fat backside. Do not knock the people for wanting change, if things stay the same as they are now then what is there for our children and their children?</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Primarily, you are attacking the entire family and Mormon faith. You are a disgrace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Primarily, you are attacking the entire family and Mormon faith. You are a disgrace.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-it-just-gets-worse/#comment-2789&quot;&gt;John Oddy&lt;/a&gt;.

Primarily, it&#039;s an attack on an individual, his hypocrisy and double standards; but as that individual is a politiciian, and a representative of a political party, it becomes by extension an attack on his party. That&#039;s inevitable.

To some extent I agree with you that &#039;they&#039;re all it&#039;, but the point here is that Ukip has tried to paint itself as a fresh start, unlike the tired old parties that have lied to us for so long. And yet, the truth may be that far from being an improvement Ukip might actually be worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-it-just-gets-worse/#comment-2789">John Oddy</a>.</p>
<p>Primarily, it&#8217;s an attack on an individual, his hypocrisy and double standards; but as that individual is a politiciian, and a representative of a political party, it becomes by extension an attack on his party. That&#8217;s inevitable.</p>
<p>To some extent I agree with you that &#8216;they&#8217;re all it&#8217;, but the point here is that Ukip has tried to paint itself as a fresh start, unlike the tired old parties that have lied to us for so long. And yet, the truth may be that far from being an improvement Ukip might actually be worse.</p>
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