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		By: Anonymous Powys		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-22749</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2016 10:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nathan Gill has been told to step down as an MEP by the UKIP ruling NEC via a left from Steve Crowther soon to be gone UKIP Chairman the party thinks as double jobbing means not doing one of the elected jobs properly, the money is irrelevant.

He claims the MEP job is a &#039;non&#039; job if that is the case why does he (we pay for) employ 7 members of staff to help him carry out the non-job or is he doing something else we don&#039;t know about ?  Who are these people and what do they do?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan Gill has been told to step down as an MEP by the UKIP ruling NEC via a left from Steve Crowther soon to be gone UKIP Chairman the party thinks as double jobbing means not doing one of the elected jobs properly, the money is irrelevant.</p>
<p>He claims the MEP job is a &#8216;non&#8217; job if that is the case why does he (we pay for) employ 7 members of staff to help him carry out the non-job or is he doing something else we don&#8217;t know about ?  Who are these people and what do they do?</p>
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		By: Jack Swann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ok you need to check out the undemocratic imposition of a candidate to stand in brecon and radnor. the original democratically selected candidate. being removed by Atkinson, Gill and co on a tissue of lies and untruths.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok you need to check out the undemocratic imposition of a candidate to stand in brecon and radnor. the original democratically selected candidate. being removed by Atkinson, Gill and co on a tissue of lies and untruths.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3730</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3598&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Cardiff-based Cylch – the Wales Recycling Network – was subject to an investigation from the Welsh Government’s internal audit unit – since completed – and had been in discussions with the Charity Commission (now a full investigation) after it received concerns over loss of funds, which has seen Cylch writing off loans of more than £2m made into two companies.&quot;

&quot;Audited accounts lodged with Companies House from Cylch to the end of March, 2011, show that former business Plastic Sorting Ltd (PSL) received two separate loans from the charity totalling £2.2m. At the time chief executive of Cylch, Mal Williams, was chairman of PSL. Mr Williams earlier this year stood down as chief executive, but remains a trustee of the charity.&quot;
Aug-2013

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/charity-commission-inquiry-cylch-cease-5583946]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3598">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Cardiff-based Cylch – the Wales Recycling Network – was subject to an investigation from the Welsh Government’s internal audit unit – since completed – and had been in discussions with the Charity Commission (now a full investigation) after it received concerns over loss of funds, which has seen Cylch writing off loans of more than £2m made into two companies.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Audited accounts lodged with Companies House from Cylch to the end of March, 2011, show that former business Plastic Sorting Ltd (PSL) received two separate loans from the charity totalling £2.2m. At the time chief executive of Cylch, Mal Williams, was chairman of PSL. Mr Williams earlier this year stood down as chief executive, but remains a trustee of the charity.&#8221;<br />
Aug-2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/charity-commission-inquiry-cylch-cease-5583946" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/charity-commission-inquiry-cylch-cease-5583946</a></p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3602</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 10:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3599&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

In this account, and others, the men&#039;s ages are given as 63 and 35, which suggests father and son.  http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/two-men-arrested-glan-conwy-1802058

As with the Anglesey case, the men are not named, and the case does not come to court. In the Glan Conwy case these two may have been the dupes rather than the perpetrators, which would explain the case, effectively, being dropped.

This does not apply in the Anglesey case. The reports state that these tyres were bound for Ghana. I have established that Gill had strong connections with Ghana (I even found a photo of him in that country), and there were Ghanaian Mormons linked to him on Anglesey. So why was the case not proceded with? I&#039;m beginning to suspect Masonic influence.

Mormonism has always been intertwined with Freemasonry. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were both Masons, and borrowed heavily from Freemasonry to set up their new church. Nathan Gill went back to Hull, a city he didn&#039;t really know that well, having spent most of his childhood and youth on Anglesey, but he obviously had contacts on the council - maybe through his (step-) father&#039;s influence? Then there was the case of the mysterious fire in the church for which he was refused planning permission. He had a number of buildings in Hull housing migrants, almost certainly in breach of HMO legislation and flouting health and safety rules, because it all had to be done on the sly because it was cash in hand and he was therefore cheating HMRC - so where was Hull city council?

When someone like Gill, so obviously a shyster and a chancer, is able to get away with so much, over so long a period of time (and also his brothers-in-law) it&#039;s worth looking for some unseen force protecting them. And I&#039;m not referring to God.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3599">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>In this account, and others, the men&#8217;s ages are given as 63 and 35, which suggests father and son.  <a href="http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/two-men-arrested-glan-conwy-1802058" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/two-men-arrested-glan-conwy-1802058</a></p>
<p>As with the Anglesey case, the men are not named, and the case does not come to court. In the Glan Conwy case these two may have been the dupes rather than the perpetrators, which would explain the case, effectively, being dropped.</p>
<p>This does not apply in the Anglesey case. The reports state that these tyres were bound for Ghana. I have established that Gill had strong connections with Ghana (I even found a photo of him in that country), and there were Ghanaian Mormons linked to him on Anglesey. So why was the case not proceded with? I&#8217;m beginning to suspect Masonic influence.</p>
<p>Mormonism has always been intertwined with Freemasonry. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were both Masons, and borrowed heavily from Freemasonry to set up their new church. Nathan Gill went back to Hull, a city he didn&#8217;t really know that well, having spent most of his childhood and youth on Anglesey, but he obviously had contacts on the council &#8211; maybe through his (step-) father&#8217;s influence? Then there was the case of the mysterious fire in the church for which he was refused planning permission. He had a number of buildings in Hull housing migrants, almost certainly in breach of HMO legislation and flouting health and safety rules, because it all had to be done on the sly because it was cash in hand and he was therefore cheating HMRC &#8211; so where was Hull city council?</p>
<p>When someone like Gill, so obviously a shyster and a chancer, is able to get away with so much, over so long a period of time (and also his brothers-in-law) it&#8217;s worth looking for some unseen force protecting them. And I&#8217;m not referring to God.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3600</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 08:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3582&quot;&gt;Daley Gleephart&lt;/a&gt;.

You can add a third group - those providing accommodation for east European migrants and dealing in cash only. 

Well, well, a video. There&#039;s posh!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3582">Daley Gleephart</a>.</p>
<p>You can add a third group &#8211; those providing accommodation for east European migrants and dealing in cash only. </p>
<p>Well, well, a video. There&#8217;s posh!</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3599</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 08:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just come across this story Daily Post - 15 December 2011. 

SWIFT action from Environment Agency Wales officers averted a potentially serious environmental incident near the River Conwy.
 
Acting on a tip-off, Agency officers discovered over 3,000 waste tyres illegally dumped in a garage in Glan Conwy.

It is believed the dumping took place on the weekend of November 25-27 and officers are appealing for witnesses.

A week later it was reported that  two men had been arrested - aged 23 and 35, and had been bailed.

1. This was a few weeks after the Menai Bridge incident.
2. Is this incident connected in any way to the above incident ?
3. Who were the two men - and what happened to them ?

Coincidence or What ???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just come across this story Daily Post &#8211; 15 December 2011. </p>
<p>SWIFT action from Environment Agency Wales officers averted a potentially serious environmental incident near the River Conwy.</p>
<p>Acting on a tip-off, Agency officers discovered over 3,000 waste tyres illegally dumped in a garage in Glan Conwy.</p>
<p>It is believed the dumping took place on the weekend of November 25-27 and officers are appealing for witnesses.</p>
<p>A week later it was reported that  two men had been arrested &#8211; aged 23 and 35, and had been bailed.</p>
<p>1. This was a few weeks after the Menai Bridge incident.<br />
2. Is this incident connected in any way to the above incident ?<br />
3. Who were the two men &#8211; and what happened to them ?</p>
<p>Coincidence or What ???</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3598</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3595&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

This is him. http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mal-williams/4/32b/656 Lots of other companies to his name, all run from a flat in Cardiff. Also WCVA and other Third Sector involvement, suggesting strong Labour connections?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3595">Brychan</a>.</p>
<p>This is him. <a href="http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mal-williams/4/32b/656" rel="nofollow ugc">http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mal-williams/4/32b/656</a> Lots of other companies to his name, all run from a flat in Cardiff. Also WCVA and other Third Sector involvement, suggesting strong Labour connections?</p>
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		By: Brychan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding the mound of 5000 used tyres, stored illegally at Menai Bridge, the property of Gills parents back in 2011. 

This is not some small operation and considerably more tyres than your average small village garage would accumulate with off-book environmental disposal charges. They were not obtained from the &#039;big chains&#039; in the UK as they have their own traceable schemes. I did some enquiries and found that in 2011 there was somewhat of a major tyre disposal crimewave in Northern Ireland operated by criminal gangs. Essentially, these were Orangemen who kept having unfortunate barn fires. They were also circumventing trace by wholesaling used tyres from the UK and transferring them from the north into the Irish Republic by container load, claiming a disposal cost from their environment fund, and then doing a re-export back into the UK. A form of environment charge laundering. So large became this problem,  in 2011, the Northern Ireland Assembly set up a special enquiry on the matter and by late 2011 the Gardi/PSNI launched a joint operation. The laundering chain fell apart, with the storage stooges, on both sides of the border, being left with tyre dumps they couldn&#039;t easily explain. Which begs the question - Did the Gill tyre stash come through Holyhead? If so, it was not just the environment crime, but an international fraud.

By the way...here is the man from Wales who was dishing out advise to the NI Assembly and bought his experience from his Zero Waste International symposiums in Pennang, San Francisco, Beaumaris (I kid you not), and Davos.
http://vimeo.com/86232531
Does anyone know who he is?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the mound of 5000 used tyres, stored illegally at Menai Bridge, the property of Gills parents back in 2011. </p>
<p>This is not some small operation and considerably more tyres than your average small village garage would accumulate with off-book environmental disposal charges. They were not obtained from the &#8216;big chains&#8217; in the UK as they have their own traceable schemes. I did some enquiries and found that in 2011 there was somewhat of a major tyre disposal crimewave in Northern Ireland operated by criminal gangs. Essentially, these were Orangemen who kept having unfortunate barn fires. They were also circumventing trace by wholesaling used tyres from the UK and transferring them from the north into the Irish Republic by container load, claiming a disposal cost from their environment fund, and then doing a re-export back into the UK. A form of environment charge laundering. So large became this problem,  in 2011, the Northern Ireland Assembly set up a special enquiry on the matter and by late 2011 the Gardi/PSNI launched a joint operation. The laundering chain fell apart, with the storage stooges, on both sides of the border, being left with tyre dumps they couldn&#8217;t easily explain. Which begs the question &#8211; Did the Gill tyre stash come through Holyhead? If so, it was not just the environment crime, but an international fraud.</p>
<p>By the way&#8230;here is the man from Wales who was dishing out advise to the NI Assembly and bought his experience from his Zero Waste International symposiums in Pennang, San Francisco, Beaumaris (I kid you not), and Davos.<br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/86232531" rel="nofollow ugc">http://vimeo.com/86232531</a><br />
Does anyone know who he is?</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3589&quot;&gt;daffy2012&lt;/a&gt;.

It is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/nathan-gill-an-update/#comment-3589">daffy2012</a>.</p>
<p>It is.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You would imagine that this would be pretty unpopular even amongst the Sais who have moved to Bodelwyddan for their little piece of rural heaven.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would imagine that this would be pretty unpopular even amongst the Sais who have moved to Bodelwyddan for their little piece of rural heaven.</p>
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