I guess that if you were able to get the dark arms of the MOD to bind around you then the dodgy dealers wouldn’t even get down to the starting grid. Strange how some Departments of State just have that kind of power. An independent Wales would have even more clout about how its own turf gets used.

the sense we get is that this was very much an arbitrary desk top exercise – avoiding Eryri to the West and Bryniau Clwyd to the East especially as the MOD influenced the amending of Ynys Mon from wind to solar energy

I shouldn’t think that a change of name would make any difference. Wind turbines are what they are no matter what they’re called. But it’s difficult to see how wind turbines would be allowed on high ground between two national parks. Unless, of course, there’s a change in the rules on their visibility from national parks.

Does that mean that windfarms would have to find space between national parks ? or does renaming these monsters “energy parks” create scope for having a degree of overlap ? I can imagine a greasy entrepreneur having a funny turn just imagining some of our protected slopes being turned over to turbines.

I think the plan is to declare the Clwydian Hills a new national park.

Don’t talk so bloody silly. That the habits of those pirates who took over Yes Cymru in some way resembles some of the antics of the people who are out to overcome objection to wind farms is purely coincidental. The fact remains that those types enjoy a “pile in” or “pile on” or whatever the fashionable term for coordinated assault is this week. People with genuine motives need to create a bit of space for themselves to get on with planning and executing activity which takes them forward not having to engage incessantly with the nutcases who would sabotage their efforts. They will be out in the open, visible to any part of the nation that cares, when they go to a High Court or perhaps march onto the land allocated to this piece of mischief and occupy it.

No doubt their A.S’s and M.P’s are all aware of what is going on in that area and should be getting their act together to represent constituent interests – of itself a novel concept these days.

Exactly. You and others have a right to remain anonymous on sites such as this which are often monitored by hostile parties. You will become known anyway where it matters when you lodge formal appeals and other relevant information in your efforts to prevent this wasteful and anti social “investment”. Just keep up the good work, make sure that the information gets distributed. You don’t need to get all precious and start promoting your self otherwise you will attract unwanted attention from all the crackpots that inhabit the “piss and wind” community.

When the first Policy was brought out by those numpties in Cardiff for massive Wind Turbine Zones across Wales’ Map it was called TAN8 (Planning Technical Advice Note Eight). After questions to the National Assembly (this was before they called themselves WAG or Senedd) they admitted they’d simply used a basic Road Atlas that showed very little infomation. That’s how stupid and thick they were and still are. All along they’ve used CAPACITY figures for OUTPUTS which means MAXIMUM possible in the most favourable of wind weather, and sunlight, when really Wind Turbines are on average only about 25% EFFECTIVE and Solar only just 10%. In fact the UK Government is now using CAPACITY for the proposed National Grid output to manage charging electric battery powered vehicles. With a lot of Renewables coming on line the Grid CAPACITY sounds fine on paper, but in reality the EFECTIVE amount of grid power that will be unavailable to supply homes, industry, commerce and vehicles. None of the current objecting protestors point this out. All they can do is hide in the shadows and whisper “Keep off our nice little hill!”. This is a fight for our nation and our future economy against moronic politicians and greedy foreign developers and incomer greenies, and native people just whimper in the shadows. Of course we are concerned about climate changes, and we’ve always had them, but covering little Wales with utterly ineffective Wind Turbines and Solar Panels will do zero nothing to stop it.
Around our coast are many areas of raised beaches and submerged forests caused by massive natural sea level changes. Wake up or shut up. We are dreaming our way to an energy and economic catastrophe and at the same time allowing the swine in to destroy our vineyard. That sounds familiar and obvious but nobody on either side is listening.