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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33766</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Should have put Lesley Griffiths in charge. She has a history of ignoring far wiser people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should have put Lesley Griffiths in charge. She has a history of ignoring far wiser people.</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33729</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2019 15:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33728&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

Brychan In answer to that question posed in your last paragraph - it&#039;s because they are more comfortable debating the merits of vegan canapes than the complexities of modern transportation infrastructure for which a degree in P.P.E or Modern Dance leaves then ill equipped  to get beyond the introduction of any detailed report. Sadly most of the &quot;experts&quot; they employ to advise and guide them are similarly lacking in relevant education and/or experience. That&#039;s what you get when people choose to make careers in politics or government with little or no real world experience or training.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33728">Brychan</a>.</p>
<p>Brychan In answer to that question posed in your last paragraph &#8211; it&#8217;s because they are more comfortable debating the merits of vegan canapes than the complexities of modern transportation infrastructure for which a degree in P.P.E or Modern Dance leaves then ill equipped  to get beyond the introduction of any detailed report. Sadly most of the &#8220;experts&#8221; they employ to advise and guide them are similarly lacking in relevant education and/or experience. That&#8217;s what you get when people choose to make careers in politics or government with little or no real world experience or training.</p>
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		By: Brychan		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33728</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brychan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2019 13:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to the subject of this blog post. There is no need for the M4 relief road. Even the lettuce lizard can see that. There’s already a proposal to solve the capacity issue at peak Cardiff commuter time around Newport. It’s a proposal to run a London/Cardiff express service stopping at Severn Tunnel Junction en route to Cardiff but not stopping at Swindon, Didcott and Reading at the other end of the line.

http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/15/31/1153163_3b3717f7.jpg
Plenty of room at Severn Tunnel Junction for massive commuter car park and new station.

This has a number of advantages…

(1) It’s a Wales only to London operation, all those English commuters who clog up the capacity on the GWR service will not be allowed. It’s a true Welsh service.
(2) It can run faster and more efficient electric only 140mph trains without the disadvantage of lugging a big diesel motor around, unlike GWR. Line speed is maintained throughout England.
(3) Extra trains and seating capacity would be provided at peak commuter peak from STJ, a park and ride station next to the M4/M48. It shifts capacity to the Welsh end of the GWML.
(4) No need for Cardiff commuters to drive through the Brynglas tunnels at all if there’s a faster, cheaper alternative.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48615464

It’s only been reported by the BBC in Wales as of today, however, the submission for track access rights was made back in April. Further success is dependent on the Westminster Government not blocking the proposal and the Welsh Government progressing the extension of integrated electronic ticketing with Cardiff Bus. Sadly the  transfer point at Cardiff Central has already been allocated to the BBC, a building best removed, and the bus terminus re-instated.

Why are Welsh politicians poncing about holding vegan vol-et-vents at Hay-on-Wye instead of sitting down with Mr Yeowart in the Senedd?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the subject of this blog post. There is no need for the M4 relief road. Even the lettuce lizard can see that. There’s already a proposal to solve the capacity issue at peak Cardiff commuter time around Newport. It’s a proposal to run a London/Cardiff express service stopping at Severn Tunnel Junction en route to Cardiff but not stopping at Swindon, Didcott and Reading at the other end of the line.</p>
<p><a href="http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/15/31/1153163_3b3717f7.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/15/31/1153163_3b3717f7.jpg</a><br />
Plenty of room at Severn Tunnel Junction for massive commuter car park and new station.</p>
<p>This has a number of advantages…</p>
<p>(1) It’s a Wales only to London operation, all those English commuters who clog up the capacity on the GWR service will not be allowed. It’s a true Welsh service.<br />
(2) It can run faster and more efficient electric only 140mph trains without the disadvantage of lugging a big diesel motor around, unlike GWR. Line speed is maintained throughout England.<br />
(3) Extra trains and seating capacity would be provided at peak commuter peak from STJ, a park and ride station next to the M4/M48. It shifts capacity to the Welsh end of the GWML.<br />
(4) No need for Cardiff commuters to drive through the Brynglas tunnels at all if there’s a faster, cheaper alternative.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48615464" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48615464</a></p>
<p>It’s only been reported by the BBC in Wales as of today, however, the submission for track access rights was made back in April. Further success is dependent on the Westminster Government not blocking the proposal and the Welsh Government progressing the extension of integrated electronic ticketing with Cardiff Bus. Sadly the  transfer point at Cardiff Central has already been allocated to the BBC, a building best removed, and the bus terminus re-instated.</p>
<p>Why are Welsh politicians poncing about holding vegan vol-et-vents at Hay-on-Wye instead of sitting down with Mr Yeowart in the Senedd?</p>
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		By: Brychan		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33727</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So what kind of transport infrastructure is now being considered? It’s a £1.5bn windfall that the Welsh Government has? Here’s one suggestion…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu-EdEbKxMM{removetoplay}
Drone showing a fix on the banks of the Mississippi near Davenport, Iowa.

http://www.geomatejournal.com/sites/default/files/articles/101-108-8113-Kaewun-May-2019-57g.pdf
The science.

I’ve just been told the bus route that runs between Llandudno Junction and Blaenau Ffestiniog, is soon to be replaced with a replacement train service. I wonder if they used a concreate trough, graded ballast and variable sleeper mass?

This technology can be used elsewhere in Wales.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C01XqlCfwZE{removetoplay}
Drone showing the track bed of the Carmarthen to Aberystwyth line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what kind of transport infrastructure is now being considered? It’s a £1.5bn windfall that the Welsh Government has? Here’s one suggestion…</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu-EdEbKxMM" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu-EdEbKxMM</a>{removetoplay}<br />
Drone showing a fix on the banks of the Mississippi near Davenport, Iowa.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.geomatejournal.com/sites/default/files/articles/101-108-8113-Kaewun-May-2019-57g.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.geomatejournal.com/sites/default/files/articles/101-108-8113-Kaewun-May-2019-57g.pdf</a><br />
The science.</p>
<p>I’ve just been told the bus route that runs between Llandudno Junction and Blaenau Ffestiniog, is soon to be replaced with a replacement train service. I wonder if they used a concreate trough, graded ballast and variable sleeper mass?</p>
<p>This technology can be used elsewhere in Wales.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C01XqlCfwZE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C01XqlCfwZE</a>{removetoplay}<br />
Drone showing the track bed of the Carmarthen to Aberystwyth line.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33726</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33725&quot;&gt;Dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

Davidson has no qualification for that job . . . apart from her Labour Party connections.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33725">Dafis</a>.</p>
<p>Davidson has no qualification for that job . . . apart from her Labour Party connections.</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dafis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2019 16:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here we go again ! University with overambitious plans spends like stink then finds it has to cut back - why am I not at all surprised ? And certainly not amused to see the cretin Davidson still in post spouting bullshit flat out.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/staff-in-tears-more-100-16425822]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again ! University with overambitious plans spends like stink then finds it has to cut back &#8211; why am I not at all surprised ? And certainly not amused to see the cretin Davidson still in post spouting bullshit flat out.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/staff-in-tears-more-100-16425822" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/staff-in-tears-more-100-16425822</a></p>
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		By: Wrexhamian		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wrexhamian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2019 23:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33723&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree, and I hope it&#039;s going to turn things around in terms of population transfer. And the Senedd will have many local authorities onside, as well as the inevitable nimbies. So Wales might after all win this one.

But I bet the EnglandandWales planning Inspectorate will push through as much population transfer as they can until the Welsh Inspectorate comes into being.

It&#039;s going to be a very interesting change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33723">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>I agree, and I hope it&#8217;s going to turn things around in terms of population transfer. And the Senedd will have many local authorities onside, as well as the inevitable nimbies. So Wales might after all win this one.</p>
<p>But I bet the EnglandandWales planning Inspectorate will push through as much population transfer as they can until the Welsh Inspectorate comes into being.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be a very interesting change.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33723</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2019 21:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33722&quot;&gt;Wrexhamian&lt;/a&gt;.

It could all be smoke and mirrors. But it would be a terrible waste of both time and effort to go through the expense of re-branding and reorganising if things carried on as before but under a &lt;em&gt;Welsh&lt;/em&gt; Planning Inspectorate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33722">Wrexhamian</a>.</p>
<p>It could all be smoke and mirrors. But it would be a terrible waste of both time and effort to go through the expense of re-branding and reorganising if things carried on as before but under a <em>Welsh</em> Planning Inspectorate.</p>
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		By: Wrexhamian		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33722</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2019 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33703&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

If the kind of anti-Welsh planning decisions that your link indicates can in future be scrubbed from the equation, then you are indeed justified in being slightly optimistic, Jac. And optimism is a pretty rare commodity in Wales these days.

We know Cairns is pissed off about the M4 decision. I wonder if there&#039;ll be any comeback from Westminster for the Drakeford Boys. More probably, there&#039;ll be a rash of housebuilding in Flintshire, far in excess of local need, in order to beat the clock.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/m4-relief-road/#comment-33703">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>If the kind of anti-Welsh planning decisions that your link indicates can in future be scrubbed from the equation, then you are indeed justified in being slightly optimistic, Jac. And optimism is a pretty rare commodity in Wales these days.</p>
<p>We know Cairns is pissed off about the M4 decision. I wonder if there&#8217;ll be any comeback from Westminster for the Drakeford Boys. More probably, there&#8217;ll be a rash of housebuilding in Flintshire, far in excess of local need, in order to beat the clock.</p>
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		By: Alan Tait		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2019 13:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Http://vanfogey.co.uk

What is happening in our region, Ammanford is not far from Kidwelly]]></description>
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<p>What is happening in our region, Ammanford is not far from Kidwelly</p>
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