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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 17:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/lammas-revisited-but-not-in-the-flesh-obviously/#comment-32573&quot;&gt;Anon&lt;/a&gt;.

None of this is true  apart from what &quot;tao&quot; may have said. He will say anything.]]></description>
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<p>None of this is true  apart from what &#8220;tao&#8221; may have said. He will say anything.</p>
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		By: Catriona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catriona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 23:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Anon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/lammas-revisited-but-not-in-the-flesh-obviously/#comment-29637&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

A good chunk of the money was spent on the leet where they get their power  from they have also got a 999 year leasehold ? Im not sure if are aware that Lammas is a Legal entity and Tir Y Gafel has directors paul or Toa said on living in the future video that Lammas would not be possible without volunteers,also simons place that burned down was the second one of his so he crowd funded for over half a million to rebuild.]]></description>
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<p>A good chunk of the money was spent on the leet where they get their power  from they have also got a 999 year leasehold ? Im not sure if are aware that Lammas is a Legal entity and Tir Y Gafel has directors paul or Toa said on living in the future video that Lammas would not be possible without volunteers,also simons place that burned down was the second one of his so he crowd funded for over half a million to rebuild.</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dafis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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Now that was a risky business. She could have been in at Tight Head if sh&#039;e focussed on her skills training !!!!]]></description>
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<p>Now that was a risky business. She could have been in at Tight Head if sh&#8217;e focussed on her skills training !!!!</p>
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		By: Myfanwy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Myfanwy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 22:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/lammas-revisited-but-not-in-the-flesh-obviously/#comment-29693&quot;&gt;adarynefoedd&lt;/a&gt;.

Lammas is considered to be the &quot;pioneer&quot; eco village, which means that many more are planed for Wales by &quot;One Planet&quot; and &quot;Calon Cymru&quot;.  Here is an example of how clueless and totally disinterested in Welsh Culture some of the people who have already moved and bought property to develop for low impact housing actually are.  They &quot;home School&quot; and want to set up their own &quot;eco village&quot;, sounds like some of the frontier, pioneer, survivalists in America, as depicted in films like &quot;The village&quot;. https://permies.com/t/28703/starting-sustainable-living-centre-Wales

They had moved to &quot;our 36 acre woodland near Llandovery in carmarthenshire.&quot; Funny, that&#039;s just where &quot;Calon Cymru&quot; are promoting their next &quot;Eco Village&quot; idea.  If Calon Cymru are genuinely &quot;revitalising&quot; the area to help local Welsh communities with affordable housing and work, that&#039;s great, but if they are trying to attract yet more English home schooling colonies to undermine Welsh speaking communities, then it is a disaster.  The problem as mentioned before with those who have developed the &quot;One Planet&quot; and &quot;Tan6&quot; policy, is that there are very few Welsh people in  positions of power in these organisations and they are making decisions that will have lasting repercussions over people in Welsh communities, again, why hasn&#039;t Welsh talent been chosen, why are we not in charge of making our own decisions?]]></description>
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<p>Lammas is considered to be the &#8220;pioneer&#8221; eco village, which means that many more are planed for Wales by &#8220;One Planet&#8221; and &#8220;Calon Cymru&#8221;.  Here is an example of how clueless and totally disinterested in Welsh Culture some of the people who have already moved and bought property to develop for low impact housing actually are.  They &#8220;home School&#8221; and want to set up their own &#8220;eco village&#8221;, sounds like some of the frontier, pioneer, survivalists in America, as depicted in films like &#8220;The village&#8221;. <a href="https://permies.com/t/28703/starting-sustainable-living-centre-Wales" rel="nofollow ugc">https://permies.com/t/28703/starting-sustainable-living-centre-Wales</a></p>
<p>They had moved to &#8220;our 36 acre woodland near Llandovery in carmarthenshire.&#8221; Funny, that&#8217;s just where &#8220;Calon Cymru&#8221; are promoting their next &#8220;Eco Village&#8221; idea.  If Calon Cymru are genuinely &#8220;revitalising&#8221; the area to help local Welsh communities with affordable housing and work, that&#8217;s great, but if they are trying to attract yet more English home schooling colonies to undermine Welsh speaking communities, then it is a disaster.  The problem as mentioned before with those who have developed the &#8220;One Planet&#8221; and &#8220;Tan6&#8221; policy, is that there are very few Welsh people in  positions of power in these organisations and they are making decisions that will have lasting repercussions over people in Welsh communities, again, why hasn&#8217;t Welsh talent been chosen, why are we not in charge of making our own decisions?</p>
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		By: Myfanwy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Myfanwy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/lammas-revisited-but-not-in-the-flesh-obviously/#comment-29683&quot;&gt;Sally Baker&lt;/a&gt;.

It is interesting that you mention Rhodri Morgan, Sally, as Jane Davidson entered politics as his researcher in 1994, after leaving teaching.  https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/in-the-news-jane-davidson/167204.article  If it is true that she could have furthered her career in the same way as others you have mentioned, it would be truly shocking, as not only was she a teacher with her own children, her husband is a Child Lecturer.  http://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/showbiz/minister-leave-cardiff-bay-good-1906059  Will you be giving evidence to the Child abuse inquiry, is it true that they will start examining the Westminster allegations soon?

The other reasons that I find so hypocritical about the people who enter politics like Jane Davidson, is they talk rightly so, about how awful Thatcher was, but when they are actually in power and are able to make a difference to alleviate the poverty and decline of Wales, they end up feathering their own nests and that of others they know.  If she was able to drive through this TAN6 policy, which benefits mainly middle class people from England, why couldn&#039;t she as &quot;Minister for environment, sustainability and housing&quot; have done something about the cost of housing in rural Wales?  A cap on second home owners should have been introduced years ago, as they have eventually done in Kernow.  http://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/ives-second-homes-high-court-771632

If politicians like Mary Helen Jones have multiple properties, it demonstrates how out of touch and self serving they are. They have effectively contributed to the ramping up of house prices, instead of thinking of ways to make homes more affordable for their constituents.
I find Jane Davidson a hypocrite on other levels though, she introduced the TAN6 policy and advocates a sustainable lifestyle for everyone, but drives a car 30 miles to her lecturing job and takes flights to America etc to pontificate on environmental issues, complete double standards.  There is increasing homelessness in towns and cities like Cardiff, but Jane does her good life chat with her &quot;One Planet&quot; friends about her dream of making her own &quot;Mozarella&quot; at her Pembrokeshire smallholding, which is not off grid, where she cuts down trees, like all the others who have moved to Wales and who are completely out of touch, with anyone who doesn&#039;t, or can not afford, to share the same values!

It was strange, because when I recently started doing some research on Jane Davidson and the TAN6 policy, I noticed that her Wikipedia page kept changing, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Davidson   it is interesting to note that it mentions on the page that she had been editing her wiki entry in 2013, a case of wanting to project a certain public image as &quot;the third most influential environmentalist in the UK for the Independent on Sunday in 2009&quot;  ( Rhodri Morgan&#039;s page was also changed by the Welsh Government). This demonstrates a certain out of touch narcissism, if you read Jane Davidson&#039;s introduction in this &quot;One Planet&quot; book, this comes across in her own self satisfaction for being responsible for the TAN6 policy, but in fact reveals her complete disregard, of what the repercussions of this policy for middle class people, will have on Welsh communities in rural Wales. 
https://books.google.dk/books?id=WkZWBQAAQBAJ&#038;pg=PA8&#038;lpg=PA8&#038;dq=jane+davidson+TAN6&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=Jr0cVGSU5X&#038;sig=ck0CjIAPNtP0hpR3bf06IzgvtBw&#038;hl=da&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=0ahUKEwjthdO2yOvYAhV0gaYKHZgDAO0Q6AEIRDAD#v=onepage&#038;q=jane%20davidson%20TAN6&#038;f=false]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/lammas-revisited-but-not-in-the-flesh-obviously/#comment-29683">Sally Baker</a>.</p>
<p>It is interesting that you mention Rhodri Morgan, Sally, as Jane Davidson entered politics as his researcher in 1994, after leaving teaching.  <a href="https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/in-the-news-jane-davidson/167204.article" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/in-the-news-jane-davidson/167204.article</a>  If it is true that she could have furthered her career in the same way as others you have mentioned, it would be truly shocking, as not only was she a teacher with her own children, her husband is a Child Lecturer.  <a href="http://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/showbiz/minister-leave-cardiff-bay-good-1906059" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/showbiz/minister-leave-cardiff-bay-good-1906059</a>  Will you be giving evidence to the Child abuse inquiry, is it true that they will start examining the Westminster allegations soon?</p>
<p>The other reasons that I find so hypocritical about the people who enter politics like Jane Davidson, is they talk rightly so, about how awful Thatcher was, but when they are actually in power and are able to make a difference to alleviate the poverty and decline of Wales, they end up feathering their own nests and that of others they know.  If she was able to drive through this TAN6 policy, which benefits mainly middle class people from England, why couldn&#8217;t she as &#8220;Minister for environment, sustainability and housing&#8221; have done something about the cost of housing in rural Wales?  A cap on second home owners should have been introduced years ago, as they have eventually done in Kernow.  <a href="http://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/ives-second-homes-high-court-771632" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/ives-second-homes-high-court-771632</a></p>
<p>If politicians like Mary Helen Jones have multiple properties, it demonstrates how out of touch and self serving they are. They have effectively contributed to the ramping up of house prices, instead of thinking of ways to make homes more affordable for their constituents.<br />
I find Jane Davidson a hypocrite on other levels though, she introduced the TAN6 policy and advocates a sustainable lifestyle for everyone, but drives a car 30 miles to her lecturing job and takes flights to America etc to pontificate on environmental issues, complete double standards.  There is increasing homelessness in towns and cities like Cardiff, but Jane does her good life chat with her &#8220;One Planet&#8221; friends about her dream of making her own &#8220;Mozarella&#8221; at her Pembrokeshire smallholding, which is not off grid, where she cuts down trees, like all the others who have moved to Wales and who are completely out of touch, with anyone who doesn&#8217;t, or can not afford, to share the same values!</p>
<p>It was strange, because when I recently started doing some research on Jane Davidson and the TAN6 policy, I noticed that her Wikipedia page kept changing, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Davidson" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Davidson</a>   it is interesting to note that it mentions on the page that she had been editing her wiki entry in 2013, a case of wanting to project a certain public image as &#8220;the third most influential environmentalist in the UK for the Independent on Sunday in 2009&#8221;  ( Rhodri Morgan&#8217;s page was also changed by the Welsh Government). This demonstrates a certain out of touch narcissism, if you read Jane Davidson&#8217;s introduction in this &#8220;One Planet&#8221; book, this comes across in her own self satisfaction for being responsible for the TAN6 policy, but in fact reveals her complete disregard, of what the repercussions of this policy for middle class people, will have on Welsh communities in rural Wales.<br />
<a href="https://books.google.dk/books?id=WkZWBQAAQBAJ&#038;pg=PA8&#038;lpg=PA8&#038;dq=jane+davidson+TAN6&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=Jr0cVGSU5X&#038;sig=ck0CjIAPNtP0hpR3bf06IzgvtBw&#038;hl=da&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=0ahUKEwjthdO2yOvYAhV0gaYKHZgDAO0Q6AEIRDAD#v=onepage&#038;q=jane%20davidson%20TAN6&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow ugc">https://books.google.dk/books?id=WkZWBQAAQBAJ&#038;pg=PA8&#038;lpg=PA8&#038;dq=jane+davidson+TAN6&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=Jr0cVGSU5X&#038;sig=ck0CjIAPNtP0hpR3bf06IzgvtBw&#038;hl=da&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=0ahUKEwjthdO2yOvYAhV0gaYKHZgDAO0Q6AEIRDAD#v=onepage&#038;q=jane%20davidson%20TAN6&#038;f=false</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 18:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/lammas-revisited-but-not-in-the-flesh-obviously/#comment-29697&quot;&gt;Dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, it still doesn&#039;t work for me.  She must have &#039;blocked&#039; me or something.  I did confront her last night.]]></description>
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<p>Well, it still doesn&#8217;t work for me.  She must have &#8216;blocked&#8217; me or something.  I did confront her last night.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dafis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/lammas-revisited-but-not-in-the-flesh-obviously/#comment-29695&quot;&gt;Big Gee&lt;/a&gt;.

The &quot;good&quot; bi-product from all this is how it shows them up for the shallow bunch they are. There has been a swathe of anger across all sorts of media about the treatment dished out to Neil McEvoy, while the party line has been defended by an assortment of absolute wets and daydreamers, whose only &quot;talent&quot; is scheming..]]></description>
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<p>The &#8220;good&#8221; bi-product from all this is how it shows them up for the shallow bunch they are. There has been a swathe of anger across all sorts of media about the treatment dished out to Neil McEvoy, while the party line has been defended by an assortment of absolute wets and daydreamers, whose only &#8220;talent&#8221; is scheming..</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally Baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 13:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/lammas-revisited-but-not-in-the-flesh-obviously/#comment-29694&quot;&gt;Big Gee&lt;/a&gt;.

It is the result of long and bitter experience Big Gee - when I was young I took them at face value, then I gave them the benefit of the doubt by making allowances for their inadequacies and trying to explain those inadequacies, then I realised that they were a bunch of complete shits with no principles at all. Now I&#039;m exposing them all on my blog after putting up with an awful lot for many years...]]></description>
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<p>It is the result of long and bitter experience Big Gee &#8211; when I was young I took them at face value, then I gave them the benefit of the doubt by making allowances for their inadequacies and trying to explain those inadequacies, then I realised that they were a bunch of complete shits with no principles at all. Now I&#8217;m exposing them all on my blog after putting up with an awful lot for many years&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 13:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/lammas-revisited-but-not-in-the-flesh-obviously/#comment-29689&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

No that&#039;s not accurate I&#039;m afraid. It&#039;s still up, with loads of comments from the usual suspects who send &#039;love, hugs &#038; kisses&#039; etc. People I guess who have probably never met her, and know next to nothing about her or her past track record.

Not really worth a second glance for those who live in the real world. A huge opportunity to have a go at those &quot;nasty cyber bullies&quot; who are making innocent little Mary cry.

Pretty depressing and pathetic in my opinion. My God the standard is low.]]></description>
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<p>No that&#8217;s not accurate I&#8217;m afraid. It&#8217;s still up, with loads of comments from the usual suspects who send &#8216;love, hugs &amp; kisses&#8217; etc. People I guess who have probably never met her, and know next to nothing about her or her past track record.</p>
<p>Not really worth a second glance for those who live in the real world. A huge opportunity to have a go at those &#8220;nasty cyber bullies&#8221; who are making innocent little Mary cry.</p>
<p>Pretty depressing and pathetic in my opinion. My God the standard is low.</p>
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