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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great comment , I am a Welsher half Irish over the sea.

love the critical comments about Llammas full of lamas ... yes its insane 45 % of homes in Newport and surrounding areas are owned by Englishers

their &#039;holiday homes&#039;

PPC need to do something but they are after the $$$ the bribes power and influence

We all need to go back to living in huts , its the answer to many things]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment , I am a Welsher half Irish over the sea.</p>
<p>love the critical comments about Llammas full of lamas &#8230; yes its insane 45 % of homes in Newport and surrounding areas are owned by Englishers</p>
<p>their &#8216;holiday homes&#8217;</p>
<p>PPC need to do something but they are after the $$$ the bribes power and influence</p>
<p>We all need to go back to living in huts , its the answer to many things</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2018 15:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29459&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Sippi Malbec :D :D :D love it!]]></description>
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<p>Sippi Malbec 😀 😀 😀 love it!</p>
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		By: Stan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29577&quot;&gt;Myfanwy&lt;/a&gt;.

Just caught up with this one. Excellent post, Myfanwy, thank you.
&quot;The irony of course, is that the beauty of the environment, which probably attracted her to live there in the first place, will not survive, if every one, who wants to drop out from England, moves to that part of Pembrokeshire&quot;. This neatly sums up my fear about where this will lead eventually. It may be relatively small numbers right now but just look at the problems these are causing. However, now there&#039;s a crack in the dam, which TAN6 has gifted them, I can see big problems ahead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29577">Myfanwy</a>.</p>
<p>Just caught up with this one. Excellent post, Myfanwy, thank you.<br />
&#8220;The irony of course, is that the beauty of the environment, which probably attracted her to live there in the first place, will not survive, if every one, who wants to drop out from England, moves to that part of Pembrokeshire&#8221;. This neatly sums up my fear about where this will lead eventually. It may be relatively small numbers right now but just look at the problems these are causing. However, now there&#8217;s a crack in the dam, which TAN6 has gifted them, I can see big problems ahead.</p>
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		By: Myfanwy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29577&quot;&gt;Myfanwy&lt;/a&gt;.

Apologies, it&#039;s Emma Orbach, not Jane.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29577">Myfanwy</a>.</p>
<p>Apologies, it&#8217;s Emma Orbach, not Jane.</p>
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		By: Myfanwy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29553&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Jane Davidson should practice what she preaches and move from her very cosy Pembrokeshire Smallholding and live off grid in a horse poo hut like Julia Orbach, the founder, along with her husband Julian Orbach, of the Brithdir Mawr community.  Brithdir Mawr has also been home to Tony Wrench and Paul &quot;Tao&quot; Winbush, along with many other &quot;Off Grid&quot; campaigners over the years, so if it wasn&#039;t for Julian and Julia, there probably wouldn&#039;t have been a Lammas and a &quot;One Planet&quot;.  If you can bear to watch it, there is a video with that tireless campaigner,Tao, describing how it all came about. It is also this community, which encouraged many to move to Pembrokeshire, to drop out, home school and to not bother integrating with their Welsh neighbours.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254397/Oxford-graduate-quit-mainstream-society-live-hobbit-style-existence-mud-hut-Welsh-hills.html

https://www.brithdirmawr.co.uk/history

Now Julian and Julia Orbach are not middle class, they are to the Manor born, or in Julia&#039;s case, a stately castle.  They had money to buy Brithdir Mawr and drop out, both went to the most exclusive schools and Oxford.  Money was obviously never an object, which is handy to know when life in a horse poo hut in the rain gets too much.  As it obviously did for Julian, as he eased straight back into the establishment, when he eventually decided to leave, no half measures, he is now living in comfort in Wiltshire and writing books on &quot;the buildings of England&quot; and Pevsner, how quintessentially English.  Again, we have to thank CADW for employing Julian, which, initially brought him to Wales and then to dropping out in Pembrokeshire.  When you read the websites and all these people&#039;s back stories, history and behaviour, it&#039;s not hard to glean that they have no real love for Welsh Culture or language or connection to Welsh communities, the Orbach&#039;s children, whom they home schooled went back to live in England, just like their father.

https://julianorbach.weebly.com/

This has left Jane Orbach still living in her hut in the Brithdir Mawr community, encouraging others to move to Wales to do the same.  The irony of course, is that the beauty of the environment, which probably attracted her to live there in the first place, will not survive, if every one, who wants to drop out from England, moves to that part of Pembrokeshire. There will be many who will have no respect for nature and many who will have no sensitivity or awareness of the unique archaeology in the area.  So Jane Davidson and any others in a position of power who allowed this to happen, how is this policy sustainable, how many numbers of middle class English people, like yourself do you imagine will move and what impact will that have on existing Welsh communities and the natural and archeological environment of the National Parks, when as Simon Dale suggests, that people like him, should just go ahead and build, with out any planning permission at all?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29553">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Jane Davidson should practice what she preaches and move from her very cosy Pembrokeshire Smallholding and live off grid in a horse poo hut like Julia Orbach, the founder, along with her husband Julian Orbach, of the Brithdir Mawr community.  Brithdir Mawr has also been home to Tony Wrench and Paul &#8220;Tao&#8221; Winbush, along with many other &#8220;Off Grid&#8221; campaigners over the years, so if it wasn&#8217;t for Julian and Julia, there probably wouldn&#8217;t have been a Lammas and a &#8220;One Planet&#8221;.  If you can bear to watch it, there is a video with that tireless campaigner,Tao, describing how it all came about. It is also this community, which encouraged many to move to Pembrokeshire, to drop out, home school and to not bother integrating with their Welsh neighbours.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254397/Oxford-graduate-quit-mainstream-society-live-hobbit-style-existence-mud-hut-Welsh-hills.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254397/Oxford-graduate-quit-mainstream-society-live-hobbit-style-existence-mud-hut-Welsh-hills.html</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.brithdirmawr.co.uk/history" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.brithdirmawr.co.uk/history</a></p>
<p>Now Julian and Julia Orbach are not middle class, they are to the Manor born, or in Julia&#8217;s case, a stately castle.  They had money to buy Brithdir Mawr and drop out, both went to the most exclusive schools and Oxford.  Money was obviously never an object, which is handy to know when life in a horse poo hut in the rain gets too much.  As it obviously did for Julian, as he eased straight back into the establishment, when he eventually decided to leave, no half measures, he is now living in comfort in Wiltshire and writing books on &#8220;the buildings of England&#8221; and Pevsner, how quintessentially English.  Again, we have to thank CADW for employing Julian, which, initially brought him to Wales and then to dropping out in Pembrokeshire.  When you read the websites and all these people&#8217;s back stories, history and behaviour, it&#8217;s not hard to glean that they have no real love for Welsh Culture or language or connection to Welsh communities, the Orbach&#8217;s children, whom they home schooled went back to live in England, just like their father.</p>
<p><a href="https://julianorbach.weebly.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://julianorbach.weebly.com/</a></p>
<p>This has left Jane Orbach still living in her hut in the Brithdir Mawr community, encouraging others to move to Wales to do the same.  The irony of course, is that the beauty of the environment, which probably attracted her to live there in the first place, will not survive, if every one, who wants to drop out from England, moves to that part of Pembrokeshire. There will be many who will have no respect for nature and many who will have no sensitivity or awareness of the unique archaeology in the area.  So Jane Davidson and any others in a position of power who allowed this to happen, how is this policy sustainable, how many numbers of middle class English people, like yourself do you imagine will move and what impact will that have on existing Welsh communities and the natural and archeological environment of the National Parks, when as Simon Dale suggests, that people like him, should just go ahead and build, with out any planning permission at all?</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29554</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 22:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29553&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, she&#039;s a very dangerous woman. Something else she did on leaving politics was to become president or something of the Ramblers&#039; Association, an organisation with which she was always involved. Her Labour colleagues knew so little about the countryside that they were happy to let her have free rein.

But of course all she really cared about was making the Welsh countryside more accessible to the English middle class, to which she belonged. That this has now been taken up by Trinity St David&#039;s only serves to remind us how divorced from Welsh interests our universities have become.

While in the Assembly she &#039;represented&#039; Pontypridd, a town of which she knew little and cared less. But if Labour&#039;s donkey vote want to elect and others like her, then that&#039;s up to them. Problem is, we all suffer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29553">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, she&#8217;s a very dangerous woman. Something else she did on leaving politics was to become president or something of the Ramblers&#8217; Association, an organisation with which she was always involved. Her Labour colleagues knew so little about the countryside that they were happy to let her have free rein.</p>
<p>But of course all she really cared about was making the Welsh countryside more accessible to the English middle class, to which she belonged. That this has now been taken up by Trinity St David&#8217;s only serves to remind us how divorced from Welsh interests our universities have become.</p>
<p>While in the Assembly she &#8216;represented&#8217; Pontypridd, a town of which she knew little and cared less. But if Labour&#8217;s donkey vote want to elect and others like her, then that&#8217;s up to them. Problem is, we all suffer.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For more on the &#039;political clout&#039; behind this policy, check out the blurb about Jane Davidson on the Trinity Saint David &#039;university&#039; website]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more on the &#8216;political clout&#8217; behind this policy, check out the blurb about Jane Davidson on the Trinity Saint David &#8216;university&#8217; website</p>
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		By: Di_enw		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2018 21:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29523&quot;&gt;Myfanwy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Myfanwy, a disaster long in the making. The Nantycwm Steiner school cylch has contributed to the problem. Those looking for an alternative lifestyle and education for their children will be drawn to the area because of the school. Birds of a feather or flies to shit comes to mind.
 &quot;Tao&quot; was always referred &quot;Paul Wimbush, Carpenter from Llanycefn&quot; in the early correspondence about Lammas ,in the local press and I suggest that his choice of his then residence was the proximity to the school and I guess that he is not the only incomer to make that choice leading to the anglicisation of another Welsh speaking area
 When the children reach 14 or the money runs out or the penny drops for some reason they leave for the main stream without any Welsh medium education any there lies another issue.
Maybe if the school closed the influx might slow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/hippies-and-associated-problems/#comment-29523">Myfanwy</a>.</p>
<p>Yes Myfanwy, a disaster long in the making. The Nantycwm Steiner school cylch has contributed to the problem. Those looking for an alternative lifestyle and education for their children will be drawn to the area because of the school. Birds of a feather or flies to shit comes to mind.<br />
 &#8220;Tao&#8221; was always referred &#8220;Paul Wimbush, Carpenter from Llanycefn&#8221; in the early correspondence about Lammas ,in the local press and I suggest that his choice of his then residence was the proximity to the school and I guess that he is not the only incomer to make that choice leading to the anglicisation of another Welsh speaking area<br />
 When the children reach 14 or the money runs out or the penny drops for some reason they leave for the main stream without any Welsh medium education any there lies another issue.<br />
Maybe if the school closed the influx might slow.</p>
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		By: Myfanwy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2018 16:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As if to highlight the exact problem under discussion, this wording from the website describes the reason why the Architect for &quot;Calon Cymru&quot;, Mark Maghorn, moved to Wales:

&quot;He moved to Wales in 2011, inspired by the Welsh Government’s stated objective of becoming a One Planet nation within a generation. He now has his own practice in Llandeilo, which specialises in rural sustainable design. As a director of CCN, he is working with colleagues to make this vision a reality in the Heart of Wales corridor and to inspire others to follow.&quot;

http://www.caloncymru.org/who-we-are.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if to highlight the exact problem under discussion, this wording from the website describes the reason why the Architect for &#8220;Calon Cymru&#8221;, Mark Maghorn, moved to Wales:</p>
<p>&#8220;He moved to Wales in 2011, inspired by the Welsh Government’s stated objective of becoming a One Planet nation within a generation. He now has his own practice in Llandeilo, which specialises in rural sustainable design. As a director of CCN, he is working with colleagues to make this vision a reality in the Heart of Wales corridor and to inspire others to follow.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.caloncymru.org/who-we-are.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.caloncymru.org/who-we-are.html</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2018 13:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Wynne and Myfanwy. Since I posted up my last contribution, I&#039;ve thought more on it, and I&#039;m glad Wynne is on the same wavelength as me. FoI&#039;s are a means of asking for data, the right questions to formulate maybe the next step. Knowledge is power as they say. Whether the questions will be answered, who knows, but don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t get. The trouble is that these guys eat, sleep and dream OPD, it&#039;s been their whole raison d&#039;etre. And as Myfanwy has enlightened me - they have influential friends fighting their corner. It will likely take me a while as I&#039;ve a bit on but if anything useful emerges I&#039;ll report back through Jac. But why didn&#039;t they attach some kind of local residency requirement to these OPDs? At least it might have helped stem the Anglo lebensraum.

Calon Cymru has just spoiled my Sunday dinner, by the way. I was in enough of a wax as it was. Are there ANY people on it that were born here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Wynne and Myfanwy. Since I posted up my last contribution, I&#8217;ve thought more on it, and I&#8217;m glad Wynne is on the same wavelength as me. FoI&#8217;s are a means of asking for data, the right questions to formulate maybe the next step. Knowledge is power as they say. Whether the questions will be answered, who knows, but don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t get. The trouble is that these guys eat, sleep and dream OPD, it&#8217;s been their whole raison d&#8217;etre. And as Myfanwy has enlightened me &#8211; they have influential friends fighting their corner. It will likely take me a while as I&#8217;ve a bit on but if anything useful emerges I&#8217;ll report back through Jac. But why didn&#8217;t they attach some kind of local residency requirement to these OPDs? At least it might have helped stem the Anglo lebensraum.</p>
<p>Calon Cymru has just spoiled my Sunday dinner, by the way. I was in enough of a wax as it was. Are there ANY people on it that were born here?</p>
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