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		By: Lyn Jenkins		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40853</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lyn Jenkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2021 07:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40579&quot;&gt;Jonathan F Dean&lt;/a&gt;.

You CANNOT  decarbonise Wales!!  
Where will the HEAT  and or ELECTRICITY  come from next time we have a HARD WINTER?.........THAT ISCOMING SOON !!

All it needs is a High Pressure over Southern Sweden !!
Don&#039;t forget  1947, 1963, 1978, 1982, 2009 and 2010 amongst  others !!

IT WAS COAL IN THE CELLAR THAT SAVED THE COUNTRY FROM HYPOTHERMIA IN THOSE WINTERS !!

THAT COAL IS GONE !!   WIND TURBINES WILL PRODUCE ZILCH IN BITTER 15mph EASTERLIES FROM SIBERIA !

BESIDES........THEY WILL FREEZE UP AND POWER LINES WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN BY  THICK ICE !!

DECARBONISATION   OF UK EQUALS MASS HYPOTHERMIA  AND  ECONOMIC  COLLAPSE !!

MAKE NO MISTAKE  !! GOOGLE THE PICS FROM THE WINTERS MENTIONED !!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40579">Jonathan F Dean</a>.</p>
<p>You CANNOT  decarbonise Wales!!<br />
Where will the HEAT  and or ELECTRICITY  come from next time we have a HARD WINTER?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;THAT ISCOMING SOON !!</p>
<p>All it needs is a High Pressure over Southern Sweden !!<br />
Don&#8217;t forget  1947, 1963, 1978, 1982, 2009 and 2010 amongst  others !!</p>
<p>IT WAS COAL IN THE CELLAR THAT SAVED THE COUNTRY FROM HYPOTHERMIA IN THOSE WINTERS !!</p>
<p>THAT COAL IS GONE !!   WIND TURBINES WILL PRODUCE ZILCH IN BITTER 15mph EASTERLIES FROM SIBERIA !</p>
<p>BESIDES&#8230;&#8230;..THEY WILL FREEZE UP AND POWER LINES WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN BY  THICK ICE !!</p>
<p>DECARBONISATION   OF UK EQUALS MASS HYPOTHERMIA  AND  ECONOMIC  COLLAPSE !!</p>
<p>MAKE NO MISTAKE  !! GOOGLE THE PICS FROM THE WINTERS MENTIONED !!</p>
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		By: Lyn Jenkins [Mr]		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40824</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lyn Jenkins [Mr]]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 04:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40619&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

They are IRISH GOVERNMENT WIND TURBINES.........SO WHY DO THE IRISH NOT HAVE THEM IN IRELAND?

Can anyone find monsters of this size in the USA??   I can&#039;t.......AND THE US IS SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN WALES !!

WE ARE TOO DAFT.......ONLY READING THE SUN ETC FROM LONDON !!

THE WELSH DON&#039;T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN WALES .THEY DON&#039;T READ BLOGS EITHER!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40619">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>They are IRISH GOVERNMENT WIND TURBINES&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;SO WHY DO THE IRISH NOT HAVE THEM IN IRELAND?</p>
<p>Can anyone find monsters of this size in the USA??   I can&#8217;t&#8230;&#8230;.AND THE US IS SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN WALES !!</p>
<p>WE ARE TOO DAFT&#8230;&#8230;.ONLY READING THE SUN ETC FROM LONDON !!</p>
<p>THE WELSH DON&#8217;T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN WALES .THEY DON&#8217;T READ BLOGS EITHER!!</p>
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		By: Dyn Gwyrdd		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40635</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dyn Gwyrdd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2021 12:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, this is OFF THE  BRYN TOPIC but relevant to Renewable Energy Lunacy. 
It is news - for INFORMATION :-
MASSIVE SOLAR COMPLEX proposal at CRAIG Y PAL.
You may ask &quot;Where is Craig y Pal?&quot;.
It&#039;s the lovely open high unspoilt large plateaux above the Swansea Valley - east of the Tawe valley section between Glais / Clydach up to Alltwen, Pontardawe. 
It is being earmarked for a Solar Panel Complex via a new Planning Application number 2007 on the Swansea Council Planning Portal this year 2021.
There is very little detail so far - but an outline map area shows it will be vast and it is described as &quot;NATIONALLY STRATEGIC&quot; so it is obviously a truly huge proposal outside of England&#039;s green hills!
As we know, all these UK solar panels on average only produce about 10% of their claimed (maximum) CAPACITY. The Renewable Energy industry always uses the word CAPACITY (i.e. AVERAGE) and quote the number of homes which in turn is only a third of the Grid demand. So their claims for solar are about just one thirtieth of what they claim by false innuendoe.(Likewise with the Wind Turbines for Y BRYN it will be just 25% of of one third. Wise up folks!).
So will Craig Y Pal save the planet from &#039;Climate Change&#039;? Who will it benefit? You can guarantee that the Cardiff Bubble Senedd and all Political Party Politicians at all levels will clamour to support it !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, this is OFF THE  BRYN TOPIC but relevant to Renewable Energy Lunacy.<br />
It is news &#8211; for INFORMATION :-<br />
MASSIVE SOLAR COMPLEX proposal at CRAIG Y PAL.<br />
You may ask &#8220;Where is Craig y Pal?&#8221;.<br />
It&#8217;s the lovely open high unspoilt large plateaux above the Swansea Valley &#8211; east of the Tawe valley section between Glais / Clydach up to Alltwen, Pontardawe.<br />
It is being earmarked for a Solar Panel Complex via a new Planning Application number 2007 on the Swansea Council Planning Portal this year 2021.<br />
There is very little detail so far &#8211; but an outline map area shows it will be vast and it is described as &#8220;NATIONALLY STRATEGIC&#8221; so it is obviously a truly huge proposal outside of England&#8217;s green hills!<br />
As we know, all these UK solar panels on average only produce about 10% of their claimed (maximum) CAPACITY. The Renewable Energy industry always uses the word CAPACITY (i.e. AVERAGE) and quote the number of homes which in turn is only a third of the Grid demand. So their claims for solar are about just one thirtieth of what they claim by false innuendoe.(Likewise with the Wind Turbines for Y BRYN it will be just 25% of of one third. Wise up folks!).<br />
So will Craig Y Pal save the planet from &#8216;Climate Change&#8217;? Who will it benefit? You can guarantee that the Cardiff Bubble Senedd and all Political Party Politicians at all levels will clamour to support it !</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40634</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2021 21:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40633&quot;&gt;Red Flag&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re a hard man to please!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40633">Red Flag</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a hard man to please!</p>
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		By: Red Flag		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40633</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red Flag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2021 21:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40608&quot;&gt;Dic Quixote&lt;/a&gt;.

My second wife was from Cwmafan.   Dreadful place made worse by the fact it can be found on a map.  The welsh equivalent of Royston Vassey but without the sophistication.]]></description>
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<p>My second wife was from Cwmafan.   Dreadful place made worse by the fact it can be found on a map.  The welsh equivalent of Royston Vassey but without the sophistication.</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40629</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dafis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2021 10:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40609&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

I just went to get you a link to the piece and copy a few lines of the text .... but someone has either edited a comment or it has been deleted completely ! Good thing too but it was an indication that there are plenty of confused thinkers out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40609">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>I just went to get you a link to the piece and copy a few lines of the text &#8230;. but someone has either edited a comment or it has been deleted completely ! Good thing too but it was an indication that there are plenty of confused thinkers out there.</p>
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		By: Dyn Gwyrdd		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40628</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dyn Gwyrdd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2021 23:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A TWENTY SIX YEAR BITTER WIND TURBINE FIGHT in north Swansea :-
In 1992, Ecogen, a skeleton front company based in Machynlleth, a front for the giant Mitsubushi Company in Japan, put forward a proposal for Wind Turbines on Mynydd y Gwair (MyG).  MyG is a vast open upland common land in what is now north Swansea - this was before the Unitary Councils emerged in 1996 - it was then in West Glamorgan and Lliw Valley Borough and pre Assembly / Senedd. The land is owned by the family of the very wealthy Lord of Gower of Badminton in the Cotswolds - the Duke of Beaufort&#039;s family - the Somerset Trust. Residents and upland hill farmers (graziers - mostly Welsh speakers) immediately opposed it. Initially in 1992 they were supported by Plaid Cymru, but Plaid Cymru are now in 2021 besotted with Wind Turbines. The first big opposition public meeting was held in early 1993. It was a massive community gathering. Finally, Ecogen backed off. Then came NPower the big boys from Germany and a real fight took place for about 25 years. Residents gathered well over £30,000 in fighting funds and held several mass protest meetings. At one protest over a thousand people marched up  MyG led by the late Professor Bellamy which caused the BBC to drop him from further work. This mass protest made considerable Television News and TV Archives prove the mass numbers. We won two big Public Inquiries. Finally in year 2017 we were beaten by Npower and the Senedd, and had been deserted by all Political Parties by now besotted with Wind Energy (like Plaid Cymru is now), when the Action Group SOCME lost a High Court case and lost a third huge last Public Inquiry. The Wind Turbines went up in 2018.  It was a massive costly bitter 26 year fight which saw a lot of serious positive action, including direct action, and also betrayal by Politicians of all Parties all fearful of upsetting the &quot;Green&quot; movement preferring to trash a whole scenic mountain for only an average of 8 MW erratic output.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A TWENTY SIX YEAR BITTER WIND TURBINE FIGHT in north Swansea :-<br />
In 1992, Ecogen, a skeleton front company based in Machynlleth, a front for the giant Mitsubushi Company in Japan, put forward a proposal for Wind Turbines on Mynydd y Gwair (MyG).  MyG is a vast open upland common land in what is now north Swansea &#8211; this was before the Unitary Councils emerged in 1996 &#8211; it was then in West Glamorgan and Lliw Valley Borough and pre Assembly / Senedd. The land is owned by the family of the very wealthy Lord of Gower of Badminton in the Cotswolds &#8211; the Duke of Beaufort&#8217;s family &#8211; the Somerset Trust. Residents and upland hill farmers (graziers &#8211; mostly Welsh speakers) immediately opposed it. Initially in 1992 they were supported by Plaid Cymru, but Plaid Cymru are now in 2021 besotted with Wind Turbines. The first big opposition public meeting was held in early 1993. It was a massive community gathering. Finally, Ecogen backed off. Then came NPower the big boys from Germany and a real fight took place for about 25 years. Residents gathered well over £30,000 in fighting funds and held several mass protest meetings. At one protest over a thousand people marched up  MyG led by the late Professor Bellamy which caused the BBC to drop him from further work. This mass protest made considerable Television News and TV Archives prove the mass numbers. We won two big Public Inquiries. Finally in year 2017 we were beaten by Npower and the Senedd, and had been deserted by all Political Parties by now besotted with Wind Energy (like Plaid Cymru is now), when the Action Group SOCME lost a High Court case and lost a third huge last Public Inquiry. The Wind Turbines went up in 2018.  It was a massive costly bitter 26 year fight which saw a lot of serious positive action, including direct action, and also betrayal by Politicians of all Parties all fearful of upsetting the &#8220;Green&#8221; movement preferring to trash a whole scenic mountain for only an average of 8 MW erratic output.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40626&quot;&gt;Dafis&lt;/a&gt;.

In which way do they suggest I am part of the problem, or even a different problem?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40626">Dafis</a>.</p>
<p>In which way do they suggest I am part of the problem, or even a different problem?</p>
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		By: Dafis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dafis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Off topic but worth noting that among those who are desperate to get shot of the crew that hijacked YC there is still a segment who think that our pal Jac is part of the problem ! Fuck me, had he not served as a major platform for dissent and constructive criticism the pirates would have sailed off and probably sunk the good ship YC by now. Just for the record I wish they had. The whole thing is tainted, stinks to high heaven having been dipped for too long in the rancid odours of gender dysfunction, sham leftist ideology and other fashionable pseudo ideas generated by deviants with nothing better to do than mislead impressionable dimwits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic but worth noting that among those who are desperate to get shot of the crew that hijacked YC there is still a segment who think that our pal Jac is part of the problem ! Fuck me, had he not served as a major platform for dissent and constructive criticism the pirates would have sailed off and probably sunk the good ship YC by now. Just for the record I wish they had. The whole thing is tainted, stinks to high heaven having been dipped for too long in the rancid odours of gender dysfunction, sham leftist ideology and other fashionable pseudo ideas generated by deviants with nothing better to do than mislead impressionable dimwits.</p>
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		By: Red Flag		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40623</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red Flag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40615&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Having spent 2 days reading that,  it&#039;s meaningless politically correct vanilla drivel really.

It&#039;s mainly abstract ill-defined (or not defined at all) aims.

All full of buzz words - &lt;i&gt;sustainability, inclusivity, diversity, potential&lt;/i&gt; etc etc etc

Politicians dream - absolutely no committment to what exactly they are going to do, quatified, by when, for how much.   As an example, the Port of Holyhead.  What exactly are they proposing in concrete terms, how much will it cost, when will it be done by,, what for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/guest-post-stop-y-bryn-onshore-wind-farm/#comment-40615">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>Having spent 2 days reading that,  it&#8217;s meaningless politically correct vanilla drivel really.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s mainly abstract ill-defined (or not defined at all) aims.</p>
<p>All full of buzz words &#8211; <i>sustainability, inclusivity, diversity, potential</i> etc etc etc</p>
<p>Politicians dream &#8211; absolutely no committment to what exactly they are going to do, quatified, by when, for how much.   As an example, the Port of Holyhead.  What exactly are they proposing in concrete terms, how much will it cost, when will it be done by,, what for.</p>
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