Comments on: Devolution, the placebo that no longer works https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/ Wales through the eyes of a cynical patriot Thu, 12 Dec 2019 10:01:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Mel Morgan https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35524 Thu, 12 Dec 2019 10:01:12 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35524 In reply to Mel Morgan.

Answers, please, on a postcard …

]]> By: Mel Morgan https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35487 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 08:21:55 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35487 A final observation: what beneficial effect, if any, did the alleged placebo of devolution in fact have?

]]> By: Dafis https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35484 Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:01:05 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35484 Tweets speak volumes about those that post them. Suzy Davies, wicked Tory, gets out and about and extols the virtues of Swansea market and supporting local business. Bethan Sayed, sits on her arse studying obscure websites and finds a woolly pully, or more likely an oil based acrylic piece of shite, and can’t think of anything more original than having a go at Jac. Bit like chucking a pebble at a fuckin’ rhino. Silly silly cow.

This kind of evidence makes no case for backing my local Tory at GE 2019, but when it comes to regional list in 2021 Cynulliad elections Ms Davies makes a good case for being at the head of the queue, while young Betsy will still be shopping online and chucking pebbles at a thickskinned old rhino in Meirionydd.

]]> By: Jac https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35481 Thu, 05 Dec 2019 17:51:25 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35481 In reply to Mel Morgan.

It has a lot to recommend it.

]]> By: Mel Morgan https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35480 Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:50:50 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35480 In reply to Brychan.

Were Adam Rufusovich in power, he could be the homologue of poor old Kerensky: but he isn’t.

]]> By: CapM https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35479 Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:31:06 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35479 Reply to Jac
“And how would that invalidate my longer term reasoning?”

It doesn’t invalidate it.
What it does is point out that your longer term reasoning is based on your faith that your longer term reasoning is correct.
Whereas your vote being used by the Conservative and Unionist party during the next term as part of a ” will of the people” justification is a certainty.

The “will of the people” according to the Conservative and Unionist party will include refusing another Scottish referendum and promoting British identity.
I imagine there are other “will of the people” things the Tories would do that you would genuinely be OK with. Have you considered that as a self described “true Tory” it’s the inclusion of those things that actually tip the balance in their favour for you?

]]> By: Mel Morgan https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35478 Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:07:54 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35478 In reply to Jac.

Why did we ever abandon the patronymic system, Royston Idwalovich?

]]> By: CapM https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35477 Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:07:26 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35477 In reply to Brychan.

John Adams seems to have commented – the worse the better -back in American Revolution times in the 1770s.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=E5c5iaoJWAgC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=john+adams++%E2%80%9Cthe+worse+the+better%E2%80%9D,&source=bl&ots=bXPP8tfV72&sig=ACfU3U32jfZ1hy_EGb0aqEaIuTlbCDXHpg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_7te3657mAhWURMAKHWJ9DNwQ6AEwDnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20adams%20%20%E2%80%9Cthe%20worse%20the%20better%E2%80%9D%2C&f=false

I think it unlikely that John Adams or those who have used the phrase (sometimes decades before 1917 – see wiki)in the context of promoting revolution in Russia did so in order to urge supporters of their revolutions to back the anti-revolutionary establishments in order to hasten erm… revolution.

I am only the grandson of a miner but internet searches help me get over that handicap!

]]> By: Jac https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35476 Thu, 05 Dec 2019 15:20:42 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35476 In reply to CapM.

And how would that invalidate my longer term reasoning?

]]> By: Jac https://jacothenorth.net/blog/devolution-the-placebo-that-no-longer-works/#comment-35475 Thu, 05 Dec 2019 15:18:23 +0000 https://jacothenorth.net/blog/?p=34613#comment-35475 In reply to Mel Morgan.

That punch-line was a long time coming.

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