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		By: David Smith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2024 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-345&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Natural monopolies and barriers to entry, Jac - healthy competition ain&#039;t always a given. Still, a bit of antitrust legislation couldn&#039;t have hurt like you say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-345">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>Natural monopolies and barriers to entry, Jac &#8211; healthy competition ain&#8217;t always a given. Still, a bit of antitrust legislation couldn&#8217;t have hurt like you say.</p>
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		By: David Smith		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-41292</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s probably her tenure, in ending the post-war consensus, selling off of &#039;nationalised&#039; industries, deindustrialisation in favour of financial services, and thereby further entrenching Londoncentrism and increasing the wealth gap between South East England and everywhere else, that can be traced back as when the break up of the UK was first set in motion. So we should really be posthumously thanking the old bag.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably her tenure, in ending the post-war consensus, selling off of &#8216;nationalised&#8217; industries, deindustrialisation in favour of financial services, and thereby further entrenching Londoncentrism and increasing the wealth gap between South East England and everywhere else, that can be traced back as when the break up of the UK was first set in motion. So we should really be posthumously thanking the old bag.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We need a Thatcher of our own. A headstrong, no-nonsense leader willing to defend the Welsh nation and revolutionise our economy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a Thatcher of our own. A headstrong, no-nonsense leader willing to defend the Welsh nation and revolutionise our economy.</p>
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		By: Big Gee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-361&quot;&gt;Victor Martin Hunt&lt;/a&gt;.

A pleasure Victor!

I know I keep on banging on about it (and I&#039;m sure that some will think it&#039;s an obsession that I have about putting this link in posts! Jac could stop that by publishing it on here ;-) . But I&#039;m convinced that there is a basic requirement that is missing, before we can move on in our struggle as a nation. It&#039;s our self awareness &#038; knowledge of ourselves. I&#039;ve posted this link before - it&#039;s an essay I wrote back in 2002 on the subject of our decline that is directly related to our education, or rather the missing bit in our education of our young ones. If you&#039;d like to read it you can find it at: http://sccambria.com/essays/erth-add_saesneg.htm 

With your self-stated interest in the subject I hope you&#039;ll enjoy it! Perhaps the &quot;handshaking&quot; can take place in due course! :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-361">Victor Martin Hunt</a>.</p>
<p>A pleasure Victor!</p>
<p>I know I keep on banging on about it (and I&#8217;m sure that some will think it&#8217;s an obsession that I have about putting this link in posts! Jac could stop that by publishing it on here 😉 . But I&#8217;m convinced that there is a basic requirement that is missing, before we can move on in our struggle as a nation. It&#8217;s our self awareness &amp; knowledge of ourselves. I&#8217;ve posted this link before &#8211; it&#8217;s an essay I wrote back in 2002 on the subject of our decline that is directly related to our education, or rather the missing bit in our education of our young ones. If you&#8217;d like to read it you can find it at: <a href="http://sccambria.com/essays/erth-add_saesneg.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sccambria.com/essays/erth-add_saesneg.htm</a> </p>
<p>With your self-stated interest in the subject I hope you&#8217;ll enjoy it! Perhaps the &#8220;handshaking&#8221; can take place in due course! 🙂</p>
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		By: Victor Martin Hunt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-360&quot;&gt;Big Gee&lt;/a&gt;.

Than you Big Gee ! It appears I may have a new friend to go forward with, but I am a cautious person until shaking hands and meeting face to face.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-360">Big Gee</a>.</p>
<p>Than you Big Gee ! It appears I may have a new friend to go forward with, but I am a cautious person until shaking hands and meeting face to face.</p>
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		By: Big Gee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 23:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-359&quot;&gt;Victor Martin Hunt&lt;/a&gt;.

I wholeheartedly agree. Especially when it comes to EDUCATING OURSELVES. That is the missing key, hidden by the English education curriculum since they brought in the original Compulsory Education Act of 1870 for the UK (minus Scotland). We&#039;ve been on a downward spiral ever since in Wales, with a linear decline in our knowledge of our own history, culture, traditions and heritage. It&#039;s almost got to the watershed point of no return by now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-359">Victor Martin Hunt</a>.</p>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree. Especially when it comes to EDUCATING OURSELVES. That is the missing key, hidden by the English education curriculum since they brought in the original Compulsory Education Act of 1870 for the UK (minus Scotland). We&#8217;ve been on a downward spiral ever since in Wales, with a linear decline in our knowledge of our own history, culture, traditions and heritage. It&#8217;s almost got to the watershed point of no return by now.</p>
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		By: Victor Martin Hunt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I cannot disagree with 90% of which I have read on this blog, However reflection on the past should be a learning process on how NOT to repeat the same old political strategies of New Labour nor the New, New Miliband handout promises. The SNP learnt this lesson years ago and are now about too win their Independence from Westminster next year. Maybe we need such friends who we can help us educate ourselves &#038; then hopefully the people of Wales. Seek out friends , not enemies !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot disagree with 90% of which I have read on this blog, However reflection on the past should be a learning process on how NOT to repeat the same old political strategies of New Labour nor the New, New Miliband handout promises. The SNP learnt this lesson years ago and are now about too win their Independence from Westminster next year. Maybe we need such friends who we can help us educate ourselves &amp; then hopefully the people of Wales. Seek out friends , not enemies !</p>
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		By: Big Gee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 14:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-354&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

Both. You can&#039;t cherry pick specific reasons. There were composite reasons for the conflict that reflected what was happening throughout society &#038; how it felt in the late seventies &#038; eighties - not just within the mining industry. Miners believed they were fighting a greater cause for the wider many (rightly or wrongly with hindsight). 

The general feeling amongst the working classes in the sixties was that their lot was improving. &#039;Her&#039; policies made the common man in the street feel that we were regressing back to the Victorian &quot;poor&quot; period. Much in keeping with the general depression amongst the worst off right now, that&#039;s being generated again by the Posh Boy Millionaires in london]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-354">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>Both. You can&#8217;t cherry pick specific reasons. There were composite reasons for the conflict that reflected what was happening throughout society &amp; how it felt in the late seventies &amp; eighties &#8211; not just within the mining industry. Miners believed they were fighting a greater cause for the wider many (rightly or wrongly with hindsight). </p>
<p>The general feeling amongst the working classes in the sixties was that their lot was improving. &#8216;Her&#8217; policies made the common man in the street feel that we were regressing back to the Victorian &#8220;poor&#8221; period. Much in keeping with the general depression amongst the worst off right now, that&#8217;s being generated again by the Posh Boy Millionaires in london</p>
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		By: Big Gee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-348&quot;&gt;leigh richards&lt;/a&gt;.

AMEN! Absolutely excellent post Leigh - I wish I had written every word of that! I certainly agree wholeheartedly with everything you&#039;ve said so eloquently. You just can&#039;t hide or distort the facts of history when they are laid bare like that. Brilliant.  

I actually lived in the Rhondda when the miners strike was on, and my neighbour next door but one was using his house and garage as a food parcel distribution centre, where people brought cardboard boxes of food to give to striking families. It was something I won&#039;t forget. At the time, the strike didn&#039;t affect me personally because I was running my own electronics company and doing very well. However the impact of living amongst and seeing others suffer, and still suffering like that, had a huge impact on the way I see things. People can talk about it, and pontificate about it from a distance, but when you see it that close up it has a different effect. That&#039;s why I get so annoyed listening to this sweetened &#038; glazed over talk about &#039;her&#039; this week. 

Never mind street parties and songs about witches being in bad taste, it&#039;s the glossing over of the true facts about the suffering caused by her that is distasteful to me. That&#039;s why I will never forgive the Tories or the so called Socialists for the way they continually treat ordinary poor people with such contempt. That&#039;s why I&#039;m a Patriot &#038; my political hero to this day is Fidel Castro - who was also a patriot and lover of his people &#038; country first and any other political pigeon-hole that others wanted to put him in second.

The reality though is that everything she put in place was to advance the &quot;haves&quot; in London &#038; the south east at the expense of the &quot;have nots&quot; throughout the rest of these islands. One thing those sorts of people have in common is that they have absolutely zero sympathy or empathy for anyone, because to them, low paid workers kept on a short leash are a commodity for them to exploit in order to fatten their bank accounts (another Darwinist outlook on life). They got the taste for it when they carted slaves to the West Indies a few hundred years ago. It&#039;s been brought into acute focus during Thatcher&#039;s years, and then followed on by the Pink Tories&#039; reign and now the posh boy millionaires in the Westminster corridors. 

Suddenly it&#039;s not shameful to be greedy, exploitative &#038; self centred - after all it&#039;s the fault of the scroungers behind closed curtains when the martyrs go to work isn&#039;t it? Shameless bankers and stockbrokers are the flag-bearers of that mob. 

We need to start governing ourselves using a different set of rules based on hard work, justice and above all a proper social conscience. Leave the Anglo Saxon system to its own devices - that&#039;s why I said earlier that we are wasting our time getting sucked into this hyped up drivel of a debate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/baroness-thatcher/#comment-348">leigh richards</a>.</p>
<p>AMEN! Absolutely excellent post Leigh &#8211; I wish I had written every word of that! I certainly agree wholeheartedly with everything you&#8217;ve said so eloquently. You just can&#8217;t hide or distort the facts of history when they are laid bare like that. Brilliant.  </p>
<p>I actually lived in the Rhondda when the miners strike was on, and my neighbour next door but one was using his house and garage as a food parcel distribution centre, where people brought cardboard boxes of food to give to striking families. It was something I won&#8217;t forget. At the time, the strike didn&#8217;t affect me personally because I was running my own electronics company and doing very well. However the impact of living amongst and seeing others suffer, and still suffering like that, had a huge impact on the way I see things. People can talk about it, and pontificate about it from a distance, but when you see it that close up it has a different effect. That&#8217;s why I get so annoyed listening to this sweetened &amp; glazed over talk about &#8216;her&#8217; this week. </p>
<p>Never mind street parties and songs about witches being in bad taste, it&#8217;s the glossing over of the true facts about the suffering caused by her that is distasteful to me. That&#8217;s why I will never forgive the Tories or the so called Socialists for the way they continually treat ordinary poor people with such contempt. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m a Patriot &amp; my political hero to this day is Fidel Castro &#8211; who was also a patriot and lover of his people &amp; country first and any other political pigeon-hole that others wanted to put him in second.</p>
<p>The reality though is that everything she put in place was to advance the &#8220;haves&#8221; in London &amp; the south east at the expense of the &#8220;have nots&#8221; throughout the rest of these islands. One thing those sorts of people have in common is that they have absolutely zero sympathy or empathy for anyone, because to them, low paid workers kept on a short leash are a commodity for them to exploit in order to fatten their bank accounts (another Darwinist outlook on life). They got the taste for it when they carted slaves to the West Indies a few hundred years ago. It&#8217;s been brought into acute focus during Thatcher&#8217;s years, and then followed on by the Pink Tories&#8217; reign and now the posh boy millionaires in the Westminster corridors. </p>
<p>Suddenly it&#8217;s not shameful to be greedy, exploitative &amp; self centred &#8211; after all it&#8217;s the fault of the scroungers behind closed curtains when the martyrs go to work isn&#8217;t it? Shameless bankers and stockbrokers are the flag-bearers of that mob. </p>
<p>We need to start governing ourselves using a different set of rules based on hard work, justice and above all a proper social conscience. Leave the Anglo Saxon system to its own devices &#8211; that&#8217;s why I said earlier that we are wasting our time getting sucked into this hyped up drivel of a debate.</p>
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		By: leigh richards		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[cheers jac, and hint taken by the way....im afraid im sometimes guilty of that tendency of welsh socialists to be  over verbose....:).........and yes totally concur with your observations on new labour.....indeed arguably one of thatcher&#039;s most durable political legacies has been &#039;new labour&#039;......im sure it was no coincidence that one of the first people tony b-liar chose to invite to downing street after his 1997 election victory was none other than Mrs T.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cheers jac, and hint taken by the way&#8230;.im afraid im sometimes guilty of that tendency of welsh socialists to be  over verbose&#8230;.:)&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and yes totally concur with your observations on new labour&#8230;..indeed arguably one of thatcher&#8217;s most durable political legacies has been &#8216;new labour&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;im sure it was no coincidence that one of the first people tony b-liar chose to invite to downing street after his 1997 election victory was none other than Mrs T&#8230;..</p>
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