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		By: Red ²		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/a-government-bereft-of-ideas-and-much-else-besides/#comment-1709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red ²]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/a-government-bereft-of-ideas-and-much-else-besides/#comment-1703&quot;&gt;Leigh Richards&lt;/a&gt;.

I wouldn&#039;t compare that group with the Jones Sect. The Jones Sect believed that the USA government was corrupt (It is) and that the USA system is doomed (Probably). 
The Jones Sect was pursued by a government agency to the point where the sect committed mass suicide. See also: Branch Davidian and Ruby Ridge. 

imo: AITTW is more like a mix of Star Trek Capitalism and Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/a-government-bereft-of-ideas-and-much-else-besides/#comment-1703">Leigh Richards</a>.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t compare that group with the Jones Sect. The Jones Sect believed that the USA government was corrupt (It is) and that the USA system is doomed (Probably).<br />
The Jones Sect was pursued by a government agency to the point where the sect committed mass suicide. See also: Branch Davidian and Ruby Ridge. </p>
<p>imo: AITTW is more like a mix of Star Trek Capitalism and Scientology.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 12:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/a-government-bereft-of-ideas-and-much-else-besides/#comment-1707&quot;&gt;daffy2012&lt;/a&gt;.

With all that&#039;s wrong with the health service in Wales I would have hoped that Mark Drakeford would have had more important priorities than pandering to these charlatans.

Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clickonwales.org/2014/01/wales-should-be-an-enabling-state/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a piece by Ruth Dineen on Click on Wales&lt;/a&gt; and here&#039;s Jeff Jones&#039; response. http://jacothenorth.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/Jeff-Jones.jpg
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/a-government-bereft-of-ideas-and-much-else-besides/#comment-1707">daffy2012</a>.</p>
<p>With all that&#8217;s wrong with the health service in Wales I would have hoped that Mark Drakeford would have had more important priorities than pandering to these charlatans.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.clickonwales.org/2014/01/wales-should-be-an-enabling-state/" rel="nofollow">a piece by Ruth Dineen on Click on Wales</a> and here&#8217;s Jeff Jones&#8217; response. <a href="http://jacothenorth.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/Jeff-Jones.jpg" rel="ugc">http://jacothenorth.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/Jeff-Jones.jpg</a></p>
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		By: daffy2012		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daffy2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Look at this:

&quot;Certainly there’s no better time to do just that with Mark Drakeford’s  announcement of the creation of a Co-production Implementation Group.....&quot;

&quot;Finally, earlier this year we took part in the Carnegie Trust’s roundtable discussions on the ‘enabling state’ – along with the brilliant Victoria Winkler of the equally brilliant Bevan Foundation, and the awesome Sue Essex, among others. The resulting publication is out now: ‘The Rise of the Enabling State: A Review of Policy and Evidence across the UK and Ireland’, outlining the findings of this comprehensive review of public policy reform.  The Trust argues that a new model of public services, based on a new relationship with citizens and communities, is required. We couldn’t agree more!&quot;

http://wacds.org.uk/2013/12/13/co-production-newsletter-november-2013/

There&#039;s obviously some troughing to be done in &#039;Training and consultancy.&#039;

http://allinthistogetherwales.wordpress.com/training-consultancy/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Certainly there’s no better time to do just that with Mark Drakeford’s  announcement of the creation of a Co-production Implementation Group&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Finally, earlier this year we took part in the Carnegie Trust’s roundtable discussions on the ‘enabling state’ – along with the brilliant Victoria Winkler of the equally brilliant Bevan Foundation, and the awesome Sue Essex, among others. The resulting publication is out now: ‘The Rise of the Enabling State: A Review of Policy and Evidence across the UK and Ireland’, outlining the findings of this comprehensive review of public policy reform.  The Trust argues that a new model of public services, based on a new relationship with citizens and communities, is required. We couldn’t agree more!&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://wacds.org.uk/2013/12/13/co-production-newsletter-november-2013/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wacds.org.uk/2013/12/13/co-production-newsletter-november-2013/</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s obviously some troughing to be done in &#8216;Training and consultancy.&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://allinthistogetherwales.wordpress.com/training-consultancy/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://allinthistogetherwales.wordpress.com/training-consultancy/</a></p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I may be allowed to budge in, after a quick nerdy search it can be summarized that &#039;All in this together Wales&#039; is yet another  front for yet  another training and consultancy firm masquerading as a company &#039;concerned with Welsh issues&#039; - their sister company &#039;Co-production Training UK&#039; also provides some serious mind altering &#039;training&#039; (indoctrination)  all part of the original Common purpose cult of &#039;leading outside authority&#039; or  &#039;transforming public service delivery&#039; as they also  like to call it. You too can be gently brain washed and transformed by Neuro Linguistic Programming and nudging for only  £180 a day, £340 for two days or £480 for three days  - bargain. 

Any company,charity, campaign organisation or not for profit that babbles on about training, consultancy, sustainability, facilitation and &#039;changing and transforming the culture&#039; need to either be shut down or run out of Wales. These are people with a VERY unpleasant agenda of infiltrating and destroying public and private bodies in Wales. People in Wales need to stop looking up to these psychobabbling idiots-they are imposters and charlatans. They may talk good and look all nice but they aren&#039;t. THIS IS DANGEROUS. THE WELSH HAVE  A GREAT BULLSHIT DETECTOR.LET&#039;S START USING IT]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may be allowed to budge in, after a quick nerdy search it can be summarized that &#8216;All in this together Wales&#8217; is yet another  front for yet  another training and consultancy firm masquerading as a company &#8216;concerned with Welsh issues&#8217; &#8211; their sister company &#8216;Co-production Training UK&#8217; also provides some serious mind altering &#8216;training&#8217; (indoctrination)  all part of the original Common purpose cult of &#8216;leading outside authority&#8217; or  &#8216;transforming public service delivery&#8217; as they also  like to call it. You too can be gently brain washed and transformed by Neuro Linguistic Programming and nudging for only  £180 a day, £340 for two days or £480 for three days  &#8211; bargain. </p>
<p>Any company,charity, campaign organisation or not for profit that babbles on about training, consultancy, sustainability, facilitation and &#8216;changing and transforming the culture&#8217; need to either be shut down or run out of Wales. These are people with a VERY unpleasant agenda of infiltrating and destroying public and private bodies in Wales. People in Wales need to stop looking up to these psychobabbling idiots-they are imposters and charlatans. They may talk good and look all nice but they aren&#8217;t. THIS IS DANGEROUS. THE WELSH HAVE  A GREAT BULLSHIT DETECTOR.LET&#8217;S START USING IT</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/a-government-bereft-of-ideas-and-much-else-besides/#comment-1703&quot;&gt;Leigh Richards&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for that, Leigh, I&#039;ll make enquiries about these buggers. How many of these groups are there, all capitalising on Wales&#039; deprivation to get their sticky mitts on public funding?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/a-government-bereft-of-ideas-and-much-else-besides/#comment-1703">Leigh Richards</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for that, Leigh, I&#8217;ll make enquiries about these buggers. How many of these groups are there, all capitalising on Wales&#8217; deprivation to get their sticky mitts on public funding?</p>
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		By: Leigh Richards		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh Richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[when you get the opportunity jac you might also want to cast your watchful eye over the &#039;co-production&#039; crowd currently swarming all over the welsh political scene http://allinthistogetherwales.wordpress.com/who-we-are/ 

reading their jargon laden psycho babble you could be forgiven for thinking the people&#039;s temple didnt perish with jim jones in the steamy jungles of guyana but has in fact been resurrected  in wales - with its &#039;disciples&#039; eager for wales to become the home to some grand new social experiment]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you get the opportunity jac you might also want to cast your watchful eye over the &#8216;co-production&#8217; crowd currently swarming all over the welsh political scene <a href="http://allinthistogetherwales.wordpress.com/who-we-are/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://allinthistogetherwales.wordpress.com/who-we-are/</a> </p>
<p>reading their jargon laden psycho babble you could be forgiven for thinking the people&#8217;s temple didnt perish with jim jones in the steamy jungles of guyana but has in fact been resurrected  in wales &#8211; with its &#8216;disciples&#8217; eager for wales to become the home to some grand new social experiment</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/a-government-bereft-of-ideas-and-much-else-besides/#comment-1701&quot;&gt;Brychan&lt;/a&gt;.

He is a busy boy. Well favoured by the Labour Party. Here&#039;s someone who seems to be on every panel or committee with Martin, http://business.cardiff.ac.uk/contact/staff/downe]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/a-government-bereft-of-ideas-and-much-else-besides/#comment-1701">Brychan</a>.</p>
<p>He is a busy boy. Well favoured by the Labour Party. Here&#8217;s someone who seems to be on every panel or committee with Martin, <a href="http://business.cardiff.ac.uk/contact/staff/downe" rel="nofollow ugc">http://business.cardiff.ac.uk/contact/staff/downe</a></p>
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		By: Brychan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brychan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised that Carwyn Jones has announced that Professor Stephen Martin has been appointed director of PPI Wales in a BBC press release today. He has been director for some time, and was on the interview panel for its research officer job based in Cardiff back in July last year. No only that, Prof Martin was already in receipt of £111,255 from the Welsh Government for his &quot;Evaluation of the Local Service Board - European Social Fund&quot;, a research project, initiated in 2012 and this is not due to complete until 2016. It is co-sponsored by this outfit  http://www.sharedintelligence.net/ . This is a London based institution which has recently been asked to co-sponsor projects such as &quot;Envisioning Future Libraries&quot; and &quot;Raising the standard of artistic work by children&quot; and &quot;London Business Improvement Districts&quot;, all of which are projects sponsored by the Greater London Assembly.  Prof Martin is also, by the way, in receipt of Welsh Government cash for his research for the &#039;Williams Commission&#039; on the shake up of local councils in Wales. Strangely, BBC Radio Wales afforded Prof Martin a live interview broadcast on 20th January as &quot;Director of the Public Policy Institute for Wales&quot; a full week prior to their announcement today (your link Jac) that he has been appointed as director. Time travel or grant creaming?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that Carwyn Jones has announced that Professor Stephen Martin has been appointed director of PPI Wales in a BBC press release today. He has been director for some time, and was on the interview panel for its research officer job based in Cardiff back in July last year. No only that, Prof Martin was already in receipt of £111,255 from the Welsh Government for his &#8220;Evaluation of the Local Service Board &#8211; European Social Fund&#8221;, a research project, initiated in 2012 and this is not due to complete until 2016. It is co-sponsored by this outfit  <a href="http://www.sharedintelligence.net/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sharedintelligence.net/</a> . This is a London based institution which has recently been asked to co-sponsor projects such as &#8220;Envisioning Future Libraries&#8221; and &#8220;Raising the standard of artistic work by children&#8221; and &#8220;London Business Improvement Districts&#8221;, all of which are projects sponsored by the Greater London Assembly.  Prof Martin is also, by the way, in receipt of Welsh Government cash for his research for the &#8216;Williams Commission&#8217; on the shake up of local councils in Wales. Strangely, BBC Radio Wales afforded Prof Martin a live interview broadcast on 20th January as &#8220;Director of the Public Policy Institute for Wales&#8221; a full week prior to their announcement today (your link Jac) that he has been appointed as director. Time travel or grant creaming?</p>
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