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		By: T O Davies		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-110&quot;&gt;Jac&lt;/a&gt;.

You have to weaken such a beast before you slay it. Cymru cymraeg labour need to be told that in the fulness of time they will be regarded as traitors and that future generations of their famalies will be regarded as shit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-110">Jac</a>.</p>
<p>You have to weaken such a beast before you slay it. Cymru cymraeg labour need to be told that in the fulness of time they will be regarded as traitors and that future generations of their famalies will be regarded as shit.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-103&quot;&gt;Big Gee&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok, so 1.5 million protesters descended on London, but the Iraq war went on anyway. Here&#039;s why. The Iraq war was too important, strategically and economically, for it to be knocked off course by protesters who were there for one day, and gone the next. That anti-war rally was not a show of strength, it was a show of weakness. What other forms did opposition to the war take? I can&#039;t think of many, 

So you have A (power) determined on a certain course, B (opposition) hoping to thwart that course of action. When A knows it only has to withstand a one-day rally, opposition in the Commons and the liberal media, then it knows it&#039;s won. If, on the other hand, B could offer more imaginative and sustained opposition, then things could be different.

For the context of this debate. Let&#039;s say that A is represented by Tesco, importing English staff to Gwynedd stores. We could write to the company; to our politicians and local media . . . and get nowhere. Organise a couple of dozen people to go to 2 or 3 Tesco stores armed with smoke bombs and flares. Result: stores evacuated, lost profits, bad publicity, ridicule on social media . . . all of which might lead to Tesco recruiting Welsh staff.

Be imaginative. Keep the enemy guessing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-103">Big Gee</a>.</p>
<p>Ok, so 1.5 million protesters descended on London, but the Iraq war went on anyway. Here&#8217;s why. The Iraq war was too important, strategically and economically, for it to be knocked off course by protesters who were there for one day, and gone the next. That anti-war rally was not a show of strength, it was a show of weakness. What other forms did opposition to the war take? I can&#8217;t think of many, </p>
<p>So you have A (power) determined on a certain course, B (opposition) hoping to thwart that course of action. When A knows it only has to withstand a one-day rally, opposition in the Commons and the liberal media, then it knows it&#8217;s won. If, on the other hand, B could offer more imaginative and sustained opposition, then things could be different.</p>
<p>For the context of this debate. Let&#8217;s say that A is represented by Tesco, importing English staff to Gwynedd stores. We could write to the company; to our politicians and local media . . . and get nowhere. Organise a couple of dozen people to go to 2 or 3 Tesco stores armed with smoke bombs and flares. Result: stores evacuated, lost profits, bad publicity, ridicule on social media . . . all of which might lead to Tesco recruiting Welsh staff.</p>
<p>Be imaginative. Keep the enemy guessing.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-112</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-107&quot;&gt;Ll.Jones&lt;/a&gt;.

Plaid can be written off. The sooner we do it, the sooner we can make a fresh start.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-107">Ll.Jones</a>.</p>
<p>Plaid can be written off. The sooner we do it, the sooner we can make a fresh start.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-106&quot;&gt;EmlynUwchCych&lt;/a&gt;.

The question is, what do we do about it? Especially as so many of those who profess concern (for the language) dance around the issue, while many politcos and others seem to be suggesting that the decline is somehow the fault of the Welsh! 

What this debate needs more than anything is a massive injection of honesty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-106">EmlynUwchCych</a>.</p>
<p>The question is, what do we do about it? Especially as so many of those who profess concern (for the language) dance around the issue, while many politcos and others seem to be suggesting that the decline is somehow the fault of the Welsh! </p>
<p>What this debate needs more than anything is a massive injection of honesty.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-110</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-105&quot;&gt;T. O. Davies&lt;/a&gt;.

On the one hand, I can see the attractions of that strategy. But on the other hand . . . a more popular Labour Party! And where are the leaders of this &#039;Welsh&#039; Labour Party?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-105">T. O. Davies</a>.</p>
<p>On the one hand, I can see the attractions of that strategy. But on the other hand . . . a more popular Labour Party! And where are the leaders of this &#8216;Welsh&#8217; Labour Party?</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-109</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-100&quot;&gt;D Morris&lt;/a&gt;.

Unfortunately, for twenty years or so, we have relied exclusively on the ballot box. It got us devolution, and the increase in powers . . . both of which are now meaningless due to a number of factors. 

First, a Labour Party running the Assembly that will not govern Wales in the interests of the Welsh.

Second, the subversion of that Assembly - with the connivance of AMs - by English civil servants; taking orders from London and, to all intents and purposes, running Wales.

Third, the loss of local democratic accountibility to the cabinet system and powerful chief executives who - surprise! surprise! - all seem to be English. 

Fourth, the decline in the Welsh media to the point where the serious issues are ignored. Genuine discussion replaced by trivialisation and twattery, bread and circuses and the &#039;The Wales Report&#039;. 

Fifth, the increasing contempt most people have for politicians and their system. In fact, it goes beyond politics to take in the police, the media, big business and banking, organised religion, etc.

Many today have turned their backs on the things their parents and grandparents viewed with respect, even reverence. We are in a very &#039;fluid&#039; time. But it offers great opportunities for anyone who can offer people, even just some people, something to believe in. 

If it&#039;s going to be done through electoral politics then it had better offer something very, very different.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-100">D Morris</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, for twenty years or so, we have relied exclusively on the ballot box. It got us devolution, and the increase in powers . . . both of which are now meaningless due to a number of factors. </p>
<p>First, a Labour Party running the Assembly that will not govern Wales in the interests of the Welsh.</p>
<p>Second, the subversion of that Assembly &#8211; with the connivance of AMs &#8211; by English civil servants; taking orders from London and, to all intents and purposes, running Wales.</p>
<p>Third, the loss of local democratic accountibility to the cabinet system and powerful chief executives who &#8211; surprise! surprise! &#8211; all seem to be English. </p>
<p>Fourth, the decline in the Welsh media to the point where the serious issues are ignored. Genuine discussion replaced by trivialisation and twattery, bread and circuses and the &#8216;The Wales Report&#8217;. </p>
<p>Fifth, the increasing contempt most people have for politicians and their system. In fact, it goes beyond politics to take in the police, the media, big business and banking, organised religion, etc.</p>
<p>Many today have turned their backs on the things their parents and grandparents viewed with respect, even reverence. We are in a very &#8216;fluid&#8217; time. But it offers great opportunities for anyone who can offer people, even just some people, something to believe in. </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s going to be done through electoral politics then it had better offer something very, very different.</p>
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		By: Jac		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-108</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-98&quot;&gt;Robert Tyler&lt;/a&gt;.

As one of those who did not fill in the form, I&#039;m surprised I didn&#039;t think of that. Good point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-98">Robert Tyler</a>.</p>
<p>As one of those who did not fill in the form, I&#8217;m surprised I didn&#8217;t think of that. Good point.</p>
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		By: Ll.Jones		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-107</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hymne Gallois 1968  (see on youtube)

Open defiance,what went wrong? We put our faith in Plaid. In coalition they were doomed to fail with a system that left them with both hands tied behind their backs. In  Assembly  coalition and in  councils they control they end up defending the system that we want them to free us from.
Plaid = Vichy Cymraeg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hymne Gallois 1968  (see on youtube)</p>
<p>Open defiance,what went wrong? We put our faith in Plaid. In coalition they were doomed to fail with a system that left them with both hands tied behind their backs. In  Assembly  coalition and in  councils they control they end up defending the system that we want them to free us from.<br />
Plaid = Vichy Cymraeg</p>
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		By: EmlynUwchCych		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, Jac. The Census figures are rather revealing about the extent of colonisation in your neck of the wood (and mine for that matter).

Of the 1031 souls in Arthog, only 303 were born in Wales (that&#039;s a mere 29.4%!!!). Guess what the figure of Welsh speakers is? 28.3%.

Moving down to Aberdovey, 65% are foreign born and 30.3% speak Welsh. Tywyn, then, has a Welshman or two more: a mere 56.1% born elsewhere and 37.5% Welsh speaking.

Nine more communities in Gwynedd have Welsh born minorities: Llanfair (58.5% are foreigners), Llangelynin (58.2%), Corris (53.1%), Dyffryn Ardudwy (52.9%), Llanfihangel-y-Pennant (52.2%), Barmouth (51.3%), Harlech (51.3%), Llanbedrog (51.3%) and Betws Garmon (50.6%).

Across the Dyfi Estuary in Ceredigion, white flight has created a minority Welsh born population in the following communities: Borth (59.6% are immigrants), Pontarfynach (58.5%), Nantcwnlle (55.0%), Ysbyty Ystwyth (55.0%), Llanbadarn Fawr (54.9%), Ysgubor-y-coed (54.2%), Faenor (54.1%), Llanfair Clydogau (54.1%), Aberystwyth (53.5%), Blaenrheidol (51.1%) and Llangrannog (50.5%), although I admit that many in Aberystwyth and Llanbadarn Fawr will leave after their university experience.

And in Carmarthenshire, the conquest is well nigh complete in Llanycrwys (53.6%), Llanfihangel Rhos-y-Corn (52.1%), Llansadwrn (51.1%) and Llanfair-ar-y-bryn (51.0%).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Jac. The Census figures are rather revealing about the extent of colonisation in your neck of the wood (and mine for that matter).</p>
<p>Of the 1031 souls in Arthog, only 303 were born in Wales (that&#8217;s a mere 29.4%!!!). Guess what the figure of Welsh speakers is? 28.3%.</p>
<p>Moving down to Aberdovey, 65% are foreign born and 30.3% speak Welsh. Tywyn, then, has a Welshman or two more: a mere 56.1% born elsewhere and 37.5% Welsh speaking.</p>
<p>Nine more communities in Gwynedd have Welsh born minorities: Llanfair (58.5% are foreigners), Llangelynin (58.2%), Corris (53.1%), Dyffryn Ardudwy (52.9%), Llanfihangel-y-Pennant (52.2%), Barmouth (51.3%), Harlech (51.3%), Llanbedrog (51.3%) and Betws Garmon (50.6%).</p>
<p>Across the Dyfi Estuary in Ceredigion, white flight has created a minority Welsh born population in the following communities: Borth (59.6% are immigrants), Pontarfynach (58.5%), Nantcwnlle (55.0%), Ysbyty Ystwyth (55.0%), Llanbadarn Fawr (54.9%), Ysgubor-y-coed (54.2%), Faenor (54.1%), Llanfair Clydogau (54.1%), Aberystwyth (53.5%), Blaenrheidol (51.1%) and Llangrannog (50.5%), although I admit that many in Aberystwyth and Llanbadarn Fawr will leave after their university experience.</p>
<p>And in Carmarthenshire, the conquest is well nigh complete in Llanycrwys (53.6%), Llanfihangel Rhos-y-Corn (52.1%), Llansadwrn (51.1%) and Llanfair-ar-y-bryn (51.0%).</p>
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		By: T. O. Davies		</title>
		<link>https://jacothenorth.net/blog/354/#comment-105</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Create, exploit divisions between Cymraeg labour and Hain&#039; London Labour.
Divide and conquer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Create, exploit divisions between Cymraeg labour and Hain&#8217; London Labour.<br />
Divide and conquer.</p>
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