May 072015
 

I have, reluctantly, voted for Plaid Cymru. I did so because I want to show my support for the Scottish National Party and its mission to destroy this increasingly ugly construct called the Union. A ‘Union’ that was never anything other than England’s mini-empire in these islands but which, in recent decades, has corrupted further into a fiefdom of the City of London that now treats large parts of England herself as backward provinces to be ruled over by those who know best.

I made this decision because even though my views on Plaid Cymru have not changed since writing Plaid Cymru: Ninety Wasted Years this election is all about Scotland and maintaining the Union. Why else would we be hearing of the possibility of a Conservative-Labour coalition? Why else would the tabloids be running front pages in their Scottish editions that simper, ‘WE LOVE YOU, PLEASE STAY!’ while their editions south of the border pander to English nationalism with ‘FUCK OFF YOU SCOTCH BASTARDS!!!!’ (Maybe I exaggerate slightly.)

The reasoning that led me to vote Plaid today was summed up in a tweet I put out earlier, and the sentence with which I ended that tweet can be explained thus. Plaid Cymru contains many ‘pragmatists’, and others whose loyalty to Wales I question. These people will lose sight of the bigger picture to accept a few more crumbs, and at the back of their minds will be the possibility of again serving as Labour’s little helper after next year’s Assembly elections. If crumbs and coalitions come into play then it could transpire that Plaid Cymru will do the dirty on the SNP.

Plaid tweet

Why do I say that this election is all about Scotland? Well, to begin with, tell me what’s happening anywhere else that isn’t influenced by what’s happening in Scotland. Or just ask yourself, why is Labour unlikely to win a majority? It’s because of the seats it’s predicted to lose in Scotland to the SNP. Why are we even talking of a Conservative-Labour coalition of National Unity? it’s because of the threat posed to ‘national’ unity by the SNP. And of course the fact that these traditional enemies are contemplating coalition tells us that there are no longer any ideological differences between them, preserving the Union is the only game in town.

After being in Scotland last September for the independence referendum I wrote a few posts on Scotland, and in Beginning of the End on September 23rd, I wrote, “Scottish independence is guaranteed within a decade, and it probably won’t need a referendum“. Nothing has happened since to make me change my mind. We are entering the most turbulent period in the constitutional history of the United Kingdom since the partition of Ireland in 1920. The next few years will witness the slow, possibly messy, unravelling of the Union, and it will come about because of what is happening in Scotland . . . and the reaction to it in England, and not just from the politicians.

I am confident that five years from now we Welsh will be living under a very different constitutional settlement. How different that settlement is will depend on many factors, not least how Plaid Cymru plays its hand. To lose sight of the bigger picture, or to suffer a loss of nerve, would be catastrophic. Yes, to some extent Plaid Cymru must ride the SNP’s coat-tails, but the next few years will offer the chance of establishing a system in Wales that finally serves Welsh interests.

To throw all that away for crumbs and coalitions, and not to hold out for the bigger prize – as I fear Plaid Cymru will do – tells our masters that we Welsh, as ever, will settle for less, and they will treat us accordingly. So my message to Plaid Cymru is . . .

STICK WITH THE SNP! BREAK THE UNION!

UPDATE 08.05.2015: The election results from Scotland, with the SNP winning 56 out of 59 seats, means that constitutional change is now inevitable. The problem for us is that the abysmal failure of Plaid Cymru might mean that many in London will conclude that Wales is ‘safe’. The best hope may be that the new Tory government makes an issue of ‘reforming how the UK is run’ (including ‘English votes for English laws’) to avoid being seen as capitulating to the SNP.

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Marconatrix
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If as you believe, and many of us hope, Scotland will be out of the Union within a few years, then you in Wales have just those few years to get your act together. Because once Scotland is independent it will be a ‘foreign country’ just as the Irish Republic is now, an so unable to interfere with ‘internal’ UK matters, and will in any case be fully occupied building… Read more »
Westbay Watcher
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Of course Labour will enter coaltion with Conservative and Plaid Cymru if it suits them. This happened in Swansea County Council ten years ago. Labour got themselves with the Conservatives and Plaid Cymru into a Coalition called the PLC to wrest council control of all the payed Chairs of Committees jobs from a coalition of Lib Dems and Independents. The Labour leader then was David Phillips and Plaid Cymruy was… Read more »
Ap Dyfnallt
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Supporting a larger party never does the smaller party any good. As the Lib-Dems are about to discover – and as Plaid discovered previously in their Assembly coalition with Labour. If Plaid sells its soul to the Labour party for short term gain then they are finished in the long term. Plaid should steer clear of any binding deals in Westminster and vote on principles and practicalities. It wouldn’t surprise… Read more »
Gwyn
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I may well vote the same way as you Jac, due to lack of options but not with much enthusiasm. PC has always stood for Plaid Cymru for me, not Politically Correct and certainly not Privy Councillor (maybe it’s clearer in Welsh, cynghorydd lle chwech) and the ideas and ideals behind it were clear but no longer It seems that the leadership in general have gone native, to be at… Read more »
Alun
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After the events in Scotland it surprises me that Welsh Labour is on course to gain at least two more seats. As for Ceredigion and despite the alarming fact that only 55% of its inhabitants are Welsh born, and many of those are second and third generation of incomers from across the border, Plaid Cymru is putting up a good fight

Stan
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As far as I can see, no matter which way the cards fall as to who gets in to No 10, Labour are now up shit creek without a paddle. I agree with Jac that Scotland will be on its own very soon. There are 533 seats in England, 294 of them Tory, 191 Labour (Wiki). Once Scotland is gone, even with the Welsh MPs (currently 26 Labour) I just… Read more »
Ceri Digion
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I wish I shared you view that developments in Scotland will put pressure on “Welsh” Labour to demand some sort of parity with Scotland. They (WL) have no original thought between them, and they had their chance at the original Devolution (grown man spits) Act. Their sun rises from England’s arse and they are blinded, not by its brilliance, but by the brown effluent which flows from that country’s orifice.

The Earthshaker
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When I read your words I thought you’d probably regret writing them, but I didn’t think it would less than 24 hours later, Plaid Cymru’s miserable election campaign failure is bad enough, but seeing so many Plaid supporters saying it was a good result is frightening especially in light of the SNP’s spectacular results. Another batch of open goals were missed and what use are 3 Plaid MP’s now? Last… Read more »
dafis
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2 days ago I commented that ………………………we are currently watching one of the most sterile political debates ever inflicted on the TV viewing public with candidates of all colours spewing out pre-rehearsed party lines on a limited range of big “ishoos” with red lines and other postures being all the rage. It’s a shame that even at local level there is little or no evidence that any of our prospective… Read more »
Big Gee
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I also voted for Plaid Cymru (well Mike Parker – as I promised I would, and for the reasons I gave in an earlier thread). I haven’t voted for anyone since the early naughties, and wouldn’t have done so now, were it not for a little debt I felt I owed Mike Parker – NOT Plaid Cymru. Not that it made much difference, when it comes to politics Ceredigion is… Read more »
Stan
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Agree with Dafis above about most people probably unaware of even the names of Plaid candidates. For instance – in Neath they are consistently runner-up to Labour but so far back it would be unrealistic to expect a Plaid gain. But did we get canvassing from any Party (Plaid included) where I live – no. Did I see much in the press about the Plaid candidate or Plaid itself –… Read more »
dafis
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Stan If they don’t get their fingers out they will be back in 4th place jousting with the Lib Dems ! Labour will be up there ( or thereabouts ) purely on force of habit and tradition which has to be eroded away by Plaid for the Nationalist cause to get anywhere, and the Tories having enjoyed a bit of a rush in these parts will be up for a… Read more »
D Morris
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Unlike you Jac I couldn’t bring myself to vote Plaid Cymru. I, like other Welsh nationalists, rejected PC & its cosy relationship with the Brit establishment. Any vote for Plaid Cymru would gave its policy makers misguided encouragement and that would be like giving a rotting corpse a blood transfusion……..pointless.

Marconatrix
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So if you abandon Plaid, where do you go? Clearly some go to UKIP, out of desperation presumably? Is there a vacuum waiting to be filled as more and more people in the SE get sick of Labour? If so who or what can fill it? And remember, nature abhors a vacuum.

Carnabwth
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On election day, Radio Wales was a politics ‘free zone’. So they decided to remenisc about VE day and the shared suffering which was of course a day early. They had a historian on there which made Dai Smith sound like a raving Welsh nationalist. And some older lady phoned in to suggest that people should remember the sacrifices etc when voting on that day to which she was told… Read more »
dafis
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When it comes to the BBC in Wales ( as opposed to BBC Wales/Cymru which is a false flag construct ) nothing is accidental unless a raving language activist slips through the fine mesh net, and most likely he/she would get edited out anyway.

dafis
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just found this on golwg360 http://www.golwg360.com/newyddion/cymru/186122-wigley-gwersi-iw-dysgu look out for 2 comments from a bloke called Roberts , in Welsh. Now I am bilingual but can’t translate properly for toffee so you’ll have to “phone a friend ” . The guts of it is much in line with that said on this site, that Plaid cannot, should not, engage in any smug self satisfaction over this campaign. In the end I… Read more »
Marconatrix
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Roberts bottom (earliest) comment reads : “Lord Wigley the leader of the PC campaign? I was not aware of any such effort, I’m afraid. Campaign? Apart from the excellent unassisted single-handed effort from Leanne on behalf of what remains of the nation (after the destruction wrought at the hands of her predecessor!) They present themselves as candidates and expect the voters to make the running for them, and then put… Read more »
Marconatrix
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Roberts second (top) comment reads : “All the while Winnie [Ewing]’s fledglings up in Scotland, who’d been inspired by Gwynfor’s success in envisioning new possibilities, were keeping the faith and working away to build up their nation, stone upon stone, Gwynfor’s sucessors here in Wales were planning their personal careers and taking for granted the support they found (in those districts not yet overrun by strangers naturally, including a not… Read more »
dafis
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well done that’s a tip top job – I speak Welsh, I write Welsh moderately well but translating the written word is beyond me for some weird ( or might it be wired ? ) reason.

The Alexiad
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It’s interesting to look at the what the result would have been under the new Parliamentary boundaries that will eventually be implemented (see the map below the first video): http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/11593496/New-Commons-boundaries-top-Conservative-government-agenda.html Whilst the new boundaries will result in as many 20 additional seats for the Tories in England, in Wales 6 of the 11 newly elected Tories would never have been elected. (I wonder how much of a fight they will… Read more »
Brychan
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It appears that the new Tory administration in Westminster is perusing an appeasement policy towards Scotland, and every time Sturgeon asks for more powers, she gets another concession. It’s the Parnell principle, and no doubt the SNP will pursue a policy of obstructionalism in Westminster. For Wales this may have a dire effect, Plaid being tame, and Labour in turmoil. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a re-appointed Sec… Read more »
Big Gee
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I’ve come to the conclusion that ALL of the world’s insane political systems and the guaranteed apocalyptical crash that capitalism is heading for (which is highlighted by the shit that goes round and round in circles and makes no progress) is futile and a waste of precious time. It’s totally screwed up. Greed, love of money, lack of humanity, thirst for power (that can’t be quenched) and man’s insane inhumanity… Read more »
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